Comment on Anon thinks about wheat

frog@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• GorGor@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Also more protein in wheat compared to rice. Actually a lot more nutrients in wheat compared to rice.

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• Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ok great but how did they figure out you could EAT IT if you did a shitload of seemingly random shit to it that you don’t have to do with, like, any other crop?

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  • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Sounds like you’re assuming step 1 of eating it was processing it into bread. Beyond that, ancient people eventually tried to eat everything. Seeds, grains, and nuts were not uncommon.

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    • Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah makes sense, thats always kind of how I thought it went down. Can’t be picky about your calories, great great great great great great great granpappy Cruxifux.

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    • Yondoza@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You can boil whole grain wheat down into porridge. It’s not the go-to use for wheat now, but the rice cooking method still provides a nutritious meal.

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    • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Insects, cats, random mushrooms, anything when you’re hungry enough.

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You don’t have to do all of that to eat it, you just have to do all of that to make bread. You can make bread from oats, you can also process it less and make porridge.

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    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      In the conditions in which they made it, porridge was often also beer(ish).

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    • Anivia@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You can also just straight up eat it. Yeah, you’ll get the shits from eating excessive amounts of fiber, but that’s probably the first way it was eaten

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      • Soulcreator@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I mean you’ll probably get runny shits from eating it due to the excess fiber, but I’m fairly certain the ancient nomadic tribes who first started eating wheat like that probably had significantly more fiber in their diets than modern man and eating it like that would probably be far less of a shock to their system than us puny fiber weaklings.

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        mmm hallucinogenic grain fungus.

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      • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And planted…

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    All you need to do to make wheat edible is soak it in water to make it soft enough to chew. Wheat in water is “gruel”.

    You can improve upon it by boiling, which will dehydrate the gruel into a primitive bread. The drained, starchy liquid, if left to sit for awhile, will become a primitive ale. Grinding makes it easier to eat.

    Every dietary use is an evolutionary progression from soaking wheat in water.

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yup, it’s not so much that wheat requires all of this processing, it just makes it tastier and easier to eat.

      I reckon that after inventing farming, people probably just had a lot more time on their hands, so they sat around trying to come up with ways to avoid having to eat the same boring gruel every day.

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      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I reckon that after inventing farming, people probably just had a lot more time on their hands,

        AFAIK farming actually took a lot more work hours than hunting+gathering, it’s just less risky. But yeah, simple soaked or boiled grain is pretty boring compared to meat, berries and nuts.

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    • Cruxifux@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Interesting!

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• Monument@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Are you saying wheat domesticated early man?

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  • OshagHennessey@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s more accurate to say all plants have always domesticated humans. We came after them, we depend on them to survive, we’re required to consume their waste to live, so we can’t live without them. They, however, have the option of consuming our waste to live, but are perfectly capable of living without us, and will likely continue to do so after we’re extinct.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s not a novel observation

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    • Monument@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      To be fair, I’m one of the 10,000, so it was novel to me!

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  • degen@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Does this mean we were conned into domesticating cats?

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    • Monument@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I thought cats domesticated themselves

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