If ICE isnt nazism, I dont know what is. We dont need Musk for that…
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ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
The dumb part is that the world has gotten to the point of allowing Nazism into our collective conversation again.
1984@lemmy.today 2 days ago
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Hard disagree. There is not way to reasonably look at him doing that Nazi salute and come away with any benefit of the doubt. He does it without ambiguity, 2 times in between talking daily about fascist ideas.
This behavior requires the mens rea of a fascist. He is a fascist. It’s quite rare that things are this clear, but the more you look at the context, the less ambiguity there is.
forrgott@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
No. He’s a self absorbed con-man.
His “little” salute?! You’re fucking joking, right?? Nothing little about three full salutes at the President’s inauguration no less.
Finally, just some immature thing? You know what, why don’t you just grow a pair and admit where you’re allegiance truly lies. Cause if you tolerate Nazism, you’re part of the problem. Only you don’t seem to mind that at all. Do you?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Nazis exploit the myth of the edgelord. Sure, some ironic nazis exist. However, most are using the language of irony to spread their nazi ideology.
Yes, some tankies like to call liberals “nazis”, some conspiracy theorists thought nazis are everywhere and are controlling the world from the moon after they secretly won World War II with all the secret superweapons, and even conservatives are sometimes get in the fun of overusing of the term. However, nazis want you to believe that only a few very obvious skinheads are nazis, the rest are just “common sense, moderate, christian conservatives, who need some drastic measures to protect us from communism, immigration, transgender ideology, and the cynicism of state atheism”.
1984@lemmy.today 2 days ago
Those “immigration agents” called ICE in America are Nazis for sure. They do exactly what Hitlers gang did. Get rid of the undesirables.
The thing is, I look at peoples actions. Someone famous doing a Nazi salute, ok ,whatever. Doesnt concern me. But what ICE is doing right now, that is extremely concerning.
You guys should be raging about that.
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Your glossing over that he paid $250m into Trump’s election and actively campaigned for him, set up a lottery to get people to vote for Trump. He was then an active part of the Trump government for months. He ran DOGE running a wrecking ball through multiple government departments and likely loosing/stealing private US citizens data. He helped end USAID which will lead to thousands of children dying. But sure he’s nothing to be concerned about.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’re excusing the fact that elmo helped bring us to this, both are bad, but the ice gestapo is a result of nazi musk
Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 1 day ago
There are too many examples of him pushing replacement theory, getting involved with far right parties in other countries to laugh this off as a bit of fun. He’s a fascist.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So his little nazi salute, I just see it as something immature he thought was fun. His brain is different to say the least.
Yeah, his brain is different, it’s a Nazi brain.
Don’t pretend this is some immature fun thought, he showed no remorse for what he did (multiple times), this was not a mistake or a lapse in judgement, this was him forgetting to 'hide his power level’s and showing his true colors.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah, the salute is just him appealing to his Ancient Roman base.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It never went away. Even in Germany, everyone blamed 10 guys and got off Scott free. For decades, Nazis would meet around Himmler’s daughter and they showed no remorse until they died.
The only difference now is people are saying things out loud.
MBech@feddit.dk 1 day ago
Had a conversation with a coworker about why I won’t ever consider buying a Tesla, and first they denied Musk being a nazi, and then tried to play it off as “why does it even matter if he’s a nazi? It’s not like he’s hurting anyone, only jews need to be afraid of nazis”. Lost every single ounce of respect for that corworker today. Nazis don’t deserve to live, they absolutely fucking don’t deserve my money, and playing it off as: “at least his idealogi isn’t trying to murder you”, is just fucking insane.