Comment on Plex’s crackdown on free remote streaming access starts this week

RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is for remote streaming. Can Jellyfin be accessed outside the network? I thought that was the difference.

  Like if I didn’t like Plex and I ran Jellyfin (and I have done), I could access it locally but I couldn’t access it, say, from a hotel a thousand miles away. Or it requires a lot more work (and maybe some paid service) to do.

  Plex may have gone up, but a bunch of us got it for $100 or less years ago and we are not affected by the new limitations. Still free for our family members accessing remotely. Wasn’t free for us to set up.

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  • PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You absolutely can access it from outside your network if you configure it that way.

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  • nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Plex can be accessed outside of your network but it would be best to have set up a vpn so that it isn’t open to anyone to try logging in

    jellyfin.org/docs/general/…/networking/

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    • GraveyardOrbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This makes it a complete nonstarter as a plex replacement. My 89 year old grandparents and tech illiterate friends can’t and won’t use a vpn for streaming. Until jellyfin can be 1 click accessed from anywhere securely over clear net it’s not a replacement.

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      • theangriestbird@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Until jellyfin can be 1 click accessed from anywhere securely over clear net it’s not a replacement.

        It can be, speaking from extensive personal experience. I followed their Reverse Proxy guides, now my tech-illiterate friends access my server via a duckdns url.

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      • superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ya, I use Jellyfin at home but I left Plex up for my parents to remote stream. Plex is just superior in that regard.

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      • nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Vpn was my recommendation. You can leave it open to anyone, or put it behind a separate auth page. Or whatever you want.

        My jellyfin is local only. If i wanted to give you access to it, i could flip a switch right now. That’s what the many reverse proxy options detailed in the link i gave discuss

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  • MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t run Jellyfin, but I’ve considered it. From what I understand, you have to set up a reverse proxy or something like Tailscale in order to access it remotely. Doing that safely can take a bit of learning, but the only part that could cost money is getting a domain name.

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    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Doing it safely is pretty simple.

      Install Tailscale at both ends. Done.

      It’s a fully encrypted mesh VPN.

      If you need access without the TS client on the other end, that takes a little more work. Then you need to enable the Funnel option.

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  • RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I also bought Plex years ago for 87€ but i gifted that account to a friend once i got jellyfin up and running.

    You’re right - Jellfyin doesn’t have a native built-in way to access it from outside. That’s the reason Plex intercepts with their own servers when you do remote streaming, that’s one of the aspects you pay for.

    Using tailscale (free and setup in like 5 min) you can access jellfin from everywhere. Easy peasy.

    Rumor says that Plex also denies you remote access when you use a VPN or mesh like tailscale… so ymmv

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Rumor says that Plex also denies you remote access when you use a VPN or mesh like tailscale… so ymmv

      Never had any issues remote streaming via VPN.

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    • CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve accessed my Plex off network with tail scale 🤷

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  • fascicle@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Wouldn’t it be the same way, you open a port just like Plex, or figure out a reverse proxy. I ran jellyfin for a little while back when Plex used to charge people a fee for using mobile

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    • BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You should at least figure out port forwarding, but Plex operates a service that makes that optional. You don’t have to do that or setup a reverse proxy, it mostly just works near seamlessly.

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  • alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes you can.

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• Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As open as the source? (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞

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• MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  As open as the servers “security”

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  • theangriestbird@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    is there some security incident you have in mind involving jellyfin?

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    • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Beside the various security holes that have been ignored for years by the devs?

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      • theangriestbird@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        such as…?

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