As open as the source? (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
Comment on Plex’s crackdown on free remote streaming access starts this week
RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
jellyfin welcomes you with open arms
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
As open as the servers “security”
theangriestbird@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
is there some security incident you have in mind involving jellyfin?
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Beside the various security holes that have been ignored for years by the devs?
roserose56@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yet can’t find a way to install it on my old Tizen… Pain.
RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
i also would be on Tizen OS, got myself a cheap used NVidia Shield TV and use this now. debloated it etc.
Magnitudes of order better experience than fucking Tizen
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
This is for remote streaming. Can Jellyfin be accessed outside the network? I thought that was the difference.
Like if I didn’t like Plex and I ran Jellyfin (and I have done), I could access it locally but I couldn’t access it, say, from a hotel a thousand miles away. Or it requires a lot more work (and maybe some paid service) to do.
Plex may have gone up, but a bunch of us got it for $100 or less years ago and we are not affected by the new limitations. Still free for our family members accessing remotely. Wasn’t free for us to set up.
nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
GraveyardOrbit@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
theangriestbird@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
It can be, speaking from extensive personal experience. I followed their Reverse Proxy guides, now my tech-illiterate friends access my server via a duckdns url.
superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Ya, I use Jellyfin at home but I left Plex up for my parents to remote stream. Plex is just superior in that regard.
MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I don’t run Jellyfin, but I’ve considered it. From what I understand, you have to set up a reverse proxy or something like Tailscale in order to access it remotely. Doing that safely can take a bit of learning, but the only part that could cost money is getting a domain name.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
Doing it safely is pretty simple.
Install Tailscale at both ends. Done.
It’s a fully encrypted mesh VPN.
If you need access without the TS client on the other end, that takes a little more work. Then you need to enable the Funnel option.
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Nnnnno, doesn’t really work that way
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Is a domain name strictly necessary though? You would need a static IP. I thought you needed something like a VPS or VPN — I know what a VPN is, but I think it was something with a similar acronym — and that was a service that cost money.
With Plex it just works. When I load up Plex on a remote machine, first it tells me my server is offline, because my server is a Mac and Macs are sleepy bois, so it wakes up the Mac, which wakes up the drives, and then the server loads up and I can play pretty much anything.
I’ve ran Jellyfin on both Mac (current setup) and Windows/Intel. I like Jellyfin overall, and it does some cool things Plex doesn’t. Like you can fix details Plex won’t let you. Like for some reason it only lists the foreign actors in anime, you can manually specify the English voices if you want. Plex doesn’t let you do that and AFAIK there’s no way to. (There should be an API out there that taps into a service that lets you access any language cast, and there should be a way to set it to dynamically change the cast to whatever language you have selected.) But anyway, Jellyfin is somewhat fine, but to use it on other devices (e.g. an Apple TV box on the same network), you have to do a fair bit of configuring. It’s not just, log into the account on your phone and type in the text on the screen. Jellyfin doesn’t even prioritise Apple development, but they have come a long way.
MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Honestly the others in this comment section would be better to ask about accessing Jellyfin remotely, but I can tell you what I know.
If you go the VPN route, Tailscale is typically recommended, which appears to be free for personal use. It looks like these are the docs for using Tailscale with Jellyfin.
I host a couple services for my family using a reverse proxy (nginx through SWAG), and I have a free domain name with duckdns. This is not as secure as the above tailscale solution, but has worked for me so far. This is likely how I would add Jellyfin to my workflow, since I already have a reverse proxy and domain name.
RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I also bought Plex years ago for 87€ but i gifted that account to a friend once i got jellyfin up and running.
You’re right - Jellfyin doesn’t have a native built-in way to access it from outside. That’s the reason Plex intercepts with their own servers when you do remote streaming, that’s one of the aspects you pay for.
Using tailscale (free and setup in like 5 min) you can access jellfin from everywhere. Easy peasy.
Rumor says that Plex also denies you remote access when you use a VPN or mesh like tailscale… so ymmv
remon@ani.social 3 weeks ago
Never had any issues remote streaming via VPN.
CodingCarpenter@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I’ve accessed my Plex off network with tail scale 🤷
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
You absolutely can access it from outside your network if you configure it that way.
Templa@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Yes it can be accessed outside the network. We use Tailscale. Our Jellyfin setup cost us the energy to run it, lol.
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Yes. Jellyfin is just a Docker container. It can be accessed the same as any other Docker container. Plex simplifies this because they can basically configure all the DNS stuff for you, because it goes through their DNS. But either can be accessed.
More specialized knowledge to configure Tailscale or a reverse proxy, yes.
smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 weeks ago
Sorry to be a pendantic ass. But. Jellyfin, in and on itself, has absolutely nothing to do with docker.
artyom@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Oh shut up, you pedantic ass
alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Yes you can.
fascicle@leminal.space 3 weeks ago
Wouldn’t it be the same way, you open a port just like Plex, or figure out a reverse proxy. I ran jellyfin for a little while back when Plex used to charge people a fee for using mobile
octobob@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I’ve never opened a port for Plex.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
You should at least figure out port forwarding, but Plex operates a service that makes that optional. You don’t have to do that or setup a reverse proxy, it mostly just works near seamlessly.