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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I was hated on Reddit for not hating the main character of Horizon Zero Dawn. God forbid someone enjoys a woman speaking.

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  • vithigar@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I never understood the hate for Aloy. She was at worst bland with a pretty heavy helping of “I’m better at everything because I’m the main character”, but she’s hardly alone in that, and it doesn’t usually attract that much ire.

    I really didn’t understand the complaints that she was unattractive or even outright ugly.

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    • SippyCup@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      She doesn’t have massive tits and dresses like you’d expect someone surviving in a robot dinosaur apocalypse to dress. So, not porn/isn’t sexy, therefore game bad.

      It boggles my mind that people fucking care. It’s not like porn isn’t freely available on the Internet, and porn of those characters specifically isn’t easy to find. But if you’ve seen some of the criticism coming from that crowd about Ghost of Yotei it’ll make sense.

      What’s sad is Yotei has plenty of faults they could criticize instead. But they can’t see past women as purely an object for sex so here we are.

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    • krooklochurm@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also Aloy was fucking hot.

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Freckles AND a jawline? Unplayable.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      That fits pretty much every game where you control a main character. MCs rarely have a suitable explanation for why they’re so special beyond the rule of cool. Why can Gordon Freeman take out teams of special ops? Because he’s the MC. He’s a pretty bland character that doesn’t say anything, but he’s loved by millions.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The degree to which people will idolize God of War’s Kratos and shit all over Horizon’s Aloy is crazy, given how these are functionally the same character.

      I really didn’t understand the complaints that she was unattractive or even outright ugly.

      She didn’t look like the silhouette on a truck’s mudflaps. So she’s hideous by default. But then nobody seems to qualify as “hot enough” anymore. Sidney Sweeny isn’t hot enough. Taylor Swift isn’t hot enough. Ciri from the Witcher isn’t hot enough. Freya Allan from the TV Show of the Witcher isn’t hot enough. Fucking Jessica Rabbit isn’t hot enough.

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  • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Pretty sure Horizon Forbidden Dawn was well liked, despite having a woman speaking, but Horizon Forbidden West was hated on for changing the design of her.

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    • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      They didn’t really change the design as much as she was just not a teenager anymore…

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      • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        They changed her design to fit some arbitrary anti-beauty standard. I don’t find the change egregious, but it’s obvious why it was done.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Bunch of sycophants all soft criticizing games like a review magazine afraid of offending the makers while talking about their playthrough.

  Almost as though its a heavily astroturfed community and many of the accounts are exactly this.

  Heaven help you if you have an actual opinion outside of the box

  That’s just social media in a nutshell. You’re either a loyal footsoldier or a radical insurgent. But you need to find your opposing faction and do battle with them. And then, if you get too confrontational, the Mods/Admins need to ban you for doing exactly what they incentivized the site to produce.

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• theoneandonlyeggboi@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Don’t forget the lack of accountability among mods in reddit.

  They can remove whatever they want, and we wouldn’t even know it was there. This alone causes people to self-censor.

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• SippyCup@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I was banned from r/gaming for daring to go against that grain, and as I understand that is typical. It was about a game I liked too , just wished they had taken a few risks. I think it was Breakpoint. I had some very harsh things to say about the Ubisoft formula and how much better that game could have been if they had embraced the sneaky techie gameplay instead of the looter shooter bullshit they’d done instead. What’s funny to me is that shortly after release they updated the game to get rid of the looter shooter bullshit. So I clearly wasn’t alone.

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  • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That sucks.

    I left myself after being shouted down over criticizing a game for restricting player kits. The game was more fun without the restrictions, but fuck me for wanting more freedom in player classes.

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  That’s basically all large fandom/hobby subs now, in my experience.

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  • Pauce@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah if they hit critical mass the quality drops significantly. I’ve bookmark a handful of my niche subs that haven’t hit that point yet but I saw it all the time over the years on there. Even something as straight forward as a liminal space, not as a term but there is a lot of writings on the topic, subreddit just turns into everybody posting pictures of there closets and and any old building.

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