Comment on If "James Bond" is a codename, would a hypothetical female operative filling the same role receive the same codename?

TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• MotoAsh@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  and yet that would fit the designation discussion going on. Interesting how you want to turn it in to a racist shitpost instead of discussing it like someone with more than a lonely braincell crying out for attention.

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Didn’t expect a strong reaction like that. Then again, I didn’t think it through before hitting send. My bad.

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• Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There was a black female 007 in the last film you dimwit. She was bloody good too. I’d be happy for her to be the next bond, but she won’t be.

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  • False@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I haven’t seen it, was James Bond dead or something so his code name got given away?

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    • Wrufieotnak@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      The number was reassigned because Bond was not in the MI6 at that time, yes.

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Oh. Totally missed that one. Oops. Haven’t sent the last few films.

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  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I didn’t like Ms Lynch as the actor, though. I didn’t respond well to her portrayal and I thought it was just … off. I don’t know.

    Sonequa Martin-green makes an excellent cop and a decent zombie-fighter, and I think she’d make an excellent bond if we’re looking to upset the rednecks.

    But they’ll probably keep it a stuffy male brit character, so Cilian Murphy or Henry Cavill, but I would have loved to’ve seen Idris Elba get a turn.

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    • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Gods, the first time heard Elba get suggested as a possible Bond, I flipped out. Then it eventually reached a point where it was definitely not going to happen, and it made me really not want to see any more Bond movies at all. There’s some actors born to play a role, and if they don’t, it’s kinda horrible. Like, if Pierce Brosnan had never had a chance to be Bond, it would have been a miscarriage of cinematic justice, no matter how the movie actually turned out (I enjoyed his turn personally).

      The fact that it’s essentially impossible to have Elba do even a single bond film now ruins the franchise for me

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• RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Would you consider it “woke” or something if they did?

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I can see why you ask that. Since I didn’t think that comment though very well, now every downvoter considers me a racist. Fair enough. Should have rewritten it entirely, but it’s too late for that now.

    Long and nuanced posts are boring to read while short and snappy ones involve skipping all the important details. Also, swiping away carelessly doesn’t help.

    I was mainly thinking about the fact that Disney tends to change things significantly and abruptly. For example, many Star Wars fans were disappointed by the changes, so I thought that 007 fans could face similar disappointments. What those changes actually are do not really matter to me. What matters more is how quickly they happen and how much the direction of the entire series changes.

    I don’t use the term “woke” to describe the changes Disney makes, since I prefer to distance myself from the crowd that uses it. Focussing more on the rate of change and its magnitude is more interesting to me.

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    • RedSeries@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      My instance doesn’t allow downvoting. You’re right, you should have rewritten it. It’s one thing to complain about them doing live/cgi remakes of stuff like Lion King vs skin color or gender of a character.

      There are British people who are black and female, so it’s not like it’s unbelievable or something. It also doesn’t help your case that 007 is a frequently reinvented character, albeit with a strong set of tropes to follow.

      I’m happy for you that you don’t call things like that “woke”, I guess.

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    • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I thought you were referring to Disney’s live action remakes, which are ass and way the fuck more sexist, but do have one black woman in them, so congratulations to Rob Marshall, I guess.

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      • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I have seen some reviews of the live action remakes, and I was not impressed. As a result, nowadays I actively avoid being exposed to those movies.

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  • lauha@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Woke is just a term for human rights that fascist want to take away.

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• MuskyMelon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  There’s already been a black female 007.

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah, I just found it. Missed the last movies, so I guess I should check it out.

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• Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I doubt Amazon are looking to sell.

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