Everyone is entitled to their opinion about bigotry and slurs, but having soulless American mega-corporations enforcing the current lowest common denominator about what is acceptable is not the win some people might think it is. Sure, they might seem like they’re on your side, and thus the right side, now, but this can change quickly and radically.
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TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Ngl, whenever “libertarians” get their hackles up about needing a right to “free speech”, I always suspect they mean bigotry and slurs.
cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I don’t agree. I think shutting down places that promote bigotry and slurs is good.
What you’re making is a slippery slope argument that doesn’t really hold water.
Glaive0@beehaw.org 1 month ago
I’m of two minds on this. I agree that fewer safe spaces for bigots is fantastic and pushes back against the normalization of some really vile things as “just an opinion”, “just joking”, “voicing all sides”, “making up funny stories about famous people”, “just boys being boys”, or other means of “criticizing” those in power.
However, we are ACTIVELY sliding down the slippery slope that people have been calling a fallacy for over a decade, and watching the same arguments used to create spaces free from the most hateful people on the internet get twisted and co-opted by those same people to ban and punish genuine criticism of atrocities and voices against abuses of power.
There are sacrifices with either choice more akin to a check in chess than an opportunity to choose a truly better outcome. Seeing all the good other Minecraft communities have done in making libraries and humanitarian resources available in creative ways gives me hope, but watching a government bedbuddy of a company like Microsoft start with the easy win of banning Nazis and bigots makes me really hope that thats truly their focus and not an opening to take out some of the amazing and creative workarounds people have done to combat censorship and human rights abuses in their own Minecraft way.
KelvarCherry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
I’ve seen peaceful protestors in the USA, UK and Germany get charged as rioters and terrorists for opposing the Israeli genocide against Palestinians. Also, the media lost its shit at criticism of Charlie Kirk. cronenthal’s argument absolutely holds water.
JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 month ago
What you’re making is a slippery slope argument that doesn’t really hold water.
Is it though? Like, really, is it? In the US the government is possibly doing shit like labeling transgender people as nihilistic violent extremists. The Project 2025 shit is coming fast. I really don’t like people using racial slurs either. But the idea that it could be very soon that things like speaking about some LGBTQ topics gets policed more and corporations go along with it is not as far fetched as it seems. A year ago I’d probably have a different opinion.
And I wanna be clear, I’m not defending people using slurs. I think it’s fine for Microsoft to not host that server on a public list of servers, I guess. I’m really just saying the slope is more slippery than previously thanks to the MAGA crowd. I’m not really sure how I feel about it all, I’m still in the cognitive dissonance phase as my mind works out where I really stand. I’ve been lucky enough that speech I consider acceptable has been what speech others considered acceptable for my whole life, but the idea that queer topics come under fire isn’t crazy.
GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 month ago
Yup, seems like they want to run a nazi bar. I took a glance at their wiki:
curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 1 month ago
Made almost the same comment in the cross post that was made of this.
Definitely comes across like an excuse to be racist AF.
GammaGames@beehaw.org 1 month ago
From another comment it sounds like there is pushback from users when someone behaves poorly, which is good, but I don’t see why anyone would want that to be the norm. Just libertarian things I guess
Deyis@beehaw.org 1 month ago
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