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rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• notsosure@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That is not a reason they are called Dutch though.

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  • Little8Lost@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thank you for disclosing that you used ai

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    • notsosure@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Notice the number of downvotes I received - PERSONAL RECORD - YES BRING IT ON ! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Ironically, everybody is doing it, but nobody will admit it 🤭

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      • TheRealKuni@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        everybody is doing it, but nobody will admit it

        This is the kind of thing people tell themselves about all kinds of behaviors to justify those behaviors but it’s usually not the case. We just tend to assume everyone does what we do, it’s a really common cognitive dissonance reduction tool.

        “People say you shouldn’t do X. I do X. I’m not a bad person. Everyone else is also doing X and just pretending they don’t.”

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      • Hadriscus@jlai.lu ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t think the downvotes you’re getting are from people who themselves use LLMs, that would be quite hypocritical don’t you think ?

        I think this is a case where you ought to look up an encyclopedia. Trusting these LLMs because they look and sound like natural language produced by a person is a mistake.

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      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m not. ChatGPT is trained on my Reddit posting history so it sounds like me half the time…

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      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        LOL, fuck off.

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      • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        everybody is doing it, but nobody will admit it

        It? That’s how you talk about your mum?

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      • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No. We’re not all doing it, only the douchebags.

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  • huppakee@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The English word for the people from the Netherlands (’Dutch’) and German word for German (’Deutsch) have exactly the same root. Back then the word referred to a much larger group of people. Over time these languages became more distinctly different languages (as opposed to different versions of a similar language) and the English decided to give the German language a new name and not the Dutch.

    Looking back it would have made more sense to continue calling German Dutch because it is more similar to the German word. We use Nederland (Netherland) as name for our country and Nederlands (Netherlandish / Netherlandic) as name for our language.

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  • Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That info is a mess, and doesn’t really apply to the topic. It’s also misleading.

    The root of the word afaik is found in exactly one word each of the three relevant languages: “deutsch”, “duits”, “dutch”.

    “deutsch” is german and means german.
    “duits” is dutch and means german.
    “dutch” id english and means dutch.

    So if you literally translate "dutch land* using their closest equivalents based on word history into any germanic language, you will obtain “german land” i.e. germany.
    No idea what english was doing here, but every germanic language can agree the word-family of dutch should have it mean german.
    Maybe the netherlands were the only relevant country to england so they just called those particular duitsmen the only duits and then had to replace the original meaning of the word with german when duits was changed.

    Either way, the etymology of the word “þiudiskaz” is definitely not the reason the dutch are called that in english, the reason for that must be in english itself probably in the last 500 years somewhere. It is a uniquely english and relatively modern phenomenon, forming the meme of this post since it neither makes sense nor matches and of the actual nations or native languages involved.

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  • dreugeworst@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    you know, the AI answer is not that bad, but I have to wonder why you didn’t think about it. the peoples who would later become the Dutch and Germans used to refer to themselves using a similar term that meant ‘of the people’ because they saw themselves, collectively, as broadly similar peoples. OP is not wrong that English people use the word Dutch (rather than something like netherlandish) because there wasn’t much distinction made between German and Dutch at the time. That is, when a broader grouping than city or town was thought of at all.

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