Comment on Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd
philosloppy@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
the problem is that he was wrong; Empathy is a good thing. You are embodying his shitty ideology by not having empathy. That doesn’t mean you gotta suddenly like the guy or not call out his shitty ideology, but don’t let yourself get dragged down to his level in the septic tank.
I’ll gladly die on this hill, get at me nerds
Some people say empathy, tolerance, & inclusion are strictly moral values. However this misses that they are also a social contract lest we end up in the paradox of tolerance.
Kirk had none for those outside his in-group. Those outside his in-group owe him none in return.
You’re arguing for parochial empathy over real empathy.
He was a force for evil in this world.
Have empathy instead for the victims of the policies he advocated.
Have empathy instead
It might be surprising, but it’s not a limited resource that needs to be spend sparcely. You do not need to make the world worse for those in an other tribe in order to make it better for your own tribe.
Exactly the opposite. We should have empathy, tolerance, and inclusiveness for all, unless people choose to exclude themselves from that collective. I’m saying those who only have parochial empathy shouldn’t expect to receive empathy from others they’ve already cut themselves off from, and it’s not something those they shut out to be shamed for that they experienced the repercussions of their actions.
unless people choose to exclude themselves from that collective
He made it very clear he excluded himself from that collective.
You are describing parochial empathy, with the caveat that somehow you think it’s different when you do it.
How, exactly, does having empathy lead to toleration of unempathetic ideologies like fascism? It logically would make us even more averse to those kinds of ideas.
What a reductive and unnuanced view of the world. I sure hope you are not representative of the rest of the population or we are even more fucked than I thought.
When one group proclaims the sadness of tragedy of a great harm upon a member of an intolerant group and the intolerant group refuses or even celebrates that same sort of great harm against the other that normalizes the one sidedness of that for that society. Calls for reciprocity become decried as politicization
bullshit. You’re just intellectualizing being a creep.
I’ll gladly die on this hill
Come on now, someone already died
pahlimur@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I choose not to have empathy for those who wouldn’t have empathy for me in the same situation. He openly mocked people who die to gun violence, so no sympathy from me. I lean towards enjoying that he is gone. The line for me is killing is bad, but I’m glad he’s dead.
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
All those people have loved ones, who are surprised that this worked for once
youtube.com/shorts/h9qQ1kC8xWg
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
I empathize with him. Live by the sword, die by the sword… In his situation, I’d accept my fate
AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I dont think we get a choice when it comes to accepting fate
Just sayn
theneverfox@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Of course we do, we can accept it or not.
Choices don’t always change reality, but they always change us
Piratemob@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Just fyi