Dangerous and addictive technologies and substances are always regulated. There’s a reason we don’t let ten year olds buy vodka.
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Uri@infosec.pub 2 months agoNo one should decide what you should do on the internet.
WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ebolapie@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, it’s cause you can sell them a bottle of tonic water for the same price. They don’t know the difference.
A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 months ago
This thing is literally killing people.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Those people are killing themselves.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My gun didn’t do a thing. It was the bullet and the gunshot wound that did him in!
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Whoever pulled the trigger did him in.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Eh. I’m with you on the “nothing is illegal on the internet” stance, but at the same time I think it’s ok to fight against “bad”/dangerous things and make them harder to access. If someone really wants to have an AI lover, let them download a model and write their own system prompt. At least then they would have a better idea of what their “lover” actually is.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
This is actually killing people though. You get that right? Please acknowledge?
Like, i don’t know which side of that i fall on, but it is killing people.
absentbird@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How many people is it killing?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
aibros don’t fucking care. they only see the enormous growth in data centers and say “see it’s all working to plan”
they don’t give a fuck when it’s skeezing on children at meta, they don’t care when it’s making nude pics of women, they don’t care when it’s giving out suicide instructions. they don’t fucking care.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
Thought that mightve been a freespeechbro, not an aibro pretending to be one. I have sone sympathy with the actually honest not ‘i just sanna do nazi shit’ ones.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
the venn circle on all these subtype chuds is a stack of fucking pancakes
chunes@lemmy.world 2 months ago
How pathetic how much lemmy doesn’t like this comment. Even 15 years ago, censorship on the internet was taboo. Now these lame-ass losers want to pull the ladder up behind them after enjoying whatever the hell they wanted in peace.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No one should decide what you should do on the internet.
pfft, ah yes sam altman’s sycophant machine should be allowed, nay, encouraged to prey upon the mentally unstable! why, it’s doing us a service, driving these people from a fragile state to outright mental collapse in record time!
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
This is why safety mechanisms are being put in place, and AIs are being programmed that act less like sycophants.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
oh thank goodness, they’re gonna put in safety mechanisms after unleashing this garbage on the populace! phew, everything will be fine then, it won’t waste enormous amounts of resources to lie to people anymore? it won’t need new power stations? new water sources?
oh wait… no, it’ll be marginally better but still use up all those resources.
what a stupid, silly waste of time and energy
NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I don’t trust OpenAI and try to avoid using them. That being said they have always been one of the more careful ones regarding safety and alignment.
I also don’t need you or openai to tell me that hallucinations are inevitable. Here have a read of this:
Title: Hallucination is Inevitable: An Innate Limitation of Large Language Models, Author: Xu et al., Date: 2025-02-13, url: arxiv.org/abs/2401.11817
Regarding resource usage: this is why open weights models like those made by the Chinese labs or mistral in Europe are better. Much more efficient and frankly more innovative than whatever OpenAI is doing.
Ultimately though you can’t just blame LLMs for people committing suicide. It’s a lazy excuse to avoid addressing real problems like how treats neurodivergent people. The same problems that lead to radicalization including incels and neo nazis. These have all been happening before LLM chatbots took off.
Uri@infosec.pub 2 months ago
It’s so weird to see people don’t understand internet censorship. Internet censorship will never bring good.
If people want to die let them… It’s their choice. Who the fuck government is to decide what people will use.
Censorship starts with one or two thing and become great firewall of China. Example : look at UK / wait a bit. Today they will ban a shit (eg. Facebook or whatever) You say I don’t use it. Tomorrow they will ban things you useNangijala@feddit.dk 2 months ago
Backwards mindset to say that censorship will never bring good.
You okay with child porn too? How about all the naughty words that we aren’t supposed to say? Or encouragement of violence toward others? That shouldn’t be censored and removed?
And honestly, I find it disturbing to say that if people want to kill themselves, they should just do it. Most suicidal people are stuck in a very dark place mentally that they CAN get put of if they get the right amount of help. Suicide isn’t always the correct solution. In most cases it, in fact, isn’t. It can be a desperate stress induced decision in response to a very difficult period in time for someone. Something where they seek relief in the moment, vut later are grateful they either didn’t go through with it or were saved. Have been in that dark pit myself and I’m so happy I didn’t go through with it even though I wanted it all to end for years.
There indeed are areas where censorship goes overboard and that is something we will have to discuss and adjusted together in society forever as times passes. But censorship isn’t an all bad thing. It is absolutely insane to think that censorship of any kind online is bad. I don’t think you actually agree with your own statement, if you think really deeply about it. Unless of course, you have no morals or care for the safety and wellbeing of others.
Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Lol good luck with that
syreus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Society requires regulation to reduce feedback loops. Everyone always assumes things can only be allowed or disallowed but there is a medium where the barriers to entry reduce the risk to bystanders while preserving liberty. See drivers licence, chemical aquisition background checks, etc.