If the ones that aren’t like that gave a fuck they would do literally anything to stop the ones that are. But because that would hurt their precious religion they just ignore it instead.
As far as I’m concerned they are all dog shit people. Willingly turning a blind eye to hate from your own is no better than spewing it yourself.
Yeah, we often see the entire non-terrorist Muslim population being held responsible for not doing enough to condemn terrorism, but Christians are let off the hook for the atrocities of their fundamentalists.
I assure you the ones that arent like that do give a fuck and do what they can with what ability they can when able. A lot of them go non denominational and some are fighting other battles elsewhere.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer was murdered by the SS because he didn’t stand idle as his country went full Nazi. He helped with multiple plots to assassinate Hitler, smuggled vulnerable people out of Germany and founded a church that rejected nazification that was later deemed illegal by the Mazis. The guy was a pastor. Do you honestly think he was dogshit for not doing enough?
This also exposes another problem with the original assertion: there’s plenty to do if you’re present, like Bonhoeffer was, but what is there to do if someone lives on the other side of the world? Send a harshly-worded tiktok?
I think the Catholic Church has abused the trust of a great many wonderful people who have also made a relatively understandable mistake, in the sense that everyone is a product of their environment, in supporting its continued existence.
The ones that aren’t didn’t do much to stop the ones that are from taking over. You’d think they’d care more about the blasphemous hatred they spew. It makes all Christians look bad.
What does stopping American Christofascists from reconstructing the US government into a baldly authoritarian cesspit look like for normal, moderate Christians? And how does it differ from what theists of other religions and atheists could do to stop the same thing (reconstruction of the US government)?
It’s decades too late at this point, but not accepting the far-right fundamentalists as fellow Christians would have been a good start. This applies more to church leadership than lay people, although a general sense of not accepting them from everyone would have still helped. They were happy to consider them when counting how many people in the US were Christian. Unlike non-theists and theist non-Christians alike, all Christians gain a lot by being the de facto state religion despite it supposedly being illegal.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
It is really sad since not all Christians are like that
seralth@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If the ones that aren’t like that gave a fuck they would do literally anything to stop the ones that are. But because that would hurt their precious religion they just ignore it instead.
As far as I’m concerned they are all dog shit people. Willingly turning a blind eye to hate from your own is no better than spewing it yourself.
Vupware@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
“Your inaction is your admission of guilt”.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Yeah, we often see the entire non-terrorist Muslim population being held responsible for not doing enough to condemn terrorism, but Christians are let off the hook for the atrocities of their fundamentalists.
brem@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
If you want to change their minds, you have to do it with promises & lies.
In the meantime, the pope will continue to shit in the woods.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
What would you have me do?
I can’t control other people
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I assure you the ones that arent like that do give a fuck and do what they can with what ability they can when able. A lot of them go non denominational and some are fighting other battles elsewhere.
zbyte64@awful.systems 2 months ago
Dietrich Bonhoeffer was murdered by the SS because he didn’t stand idle as his country went full Nazi. He helped with multiple plots to assassinate Hitler, smuggled vulnerable people out of Germany and founded a church that rejected nazification that was later deemed illegal by the Mazis. The guy was a pastor. Do you honestly think he was dogshit for not doing enough?
bless@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
This also exposes another problem with the original assertion: there’s plenty to do if you’re present, like Bonhoeffer was, but what is there to do if someone lives on the other side of the world? Send a harshly-worded tiktok?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 months ago
thetrumpet.com/8173-catholic-church-helped-eichma…
I think the Catholic Church has abused the trust of a great many wonderful people who have also made a relatively understandable mistake, in the sense that everyone is a product of their environment, in supporting its continued existence.
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Oh, fuck off with that bullshit. I don’t even have a desire to describe why and how exactly this way of thinking is crap
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The ones that aren’t didn’t do much to stop the ones that are from taking over. You’d think they’d care more about the blasphemous hatred they spew. It makes all Christians look bad.
brem@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Every 2000 years or so, religion goes to war with itself. Big war.
In the years between, it’s basically disputes over what to call the omnipotent being or which shoe to worship.
qarbone@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What does stopping American Christofascists from reconstructing the US government into a baldly authoritarian cesspit look like for normal, moderate Christians? And how does it differ from what theists of other religions and atheists could do to stop the same thing (reconstruction of the US government)?
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It’s decades too late at this point, but not accepting the far-right fundamentalists as fellow Christians would have been a good start. This applies more to church leadership than lay people, although a general sense of not accepting them from everyone would have still helped. They were happy to consider them when counting how many people in the US were Christian. Unlike non-theists and theist non-Christians alike, all Christians gain a lot by being the de facto state religion despite it supposedly being illegal.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
What would you like me to do? I don’t support the evangelicals.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
There’s not much of anything you can do an an individual. This is something church leaders should have nipped in the bud a long time ago.
Shanmugha@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You also can fuck right off. Didn’t do much my ass
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Considering the evangelicals hold all the political power, they apparently didn’t. If they did try to fight them, they did a terrible job.
brem@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Not all that segregate are doomed to hate. Just most.
Thanks for not telling us “we are going to hell”, we’re already here.