True, but oddly you can contribute to wars by being American and paying taxes.
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brezel@piefed.social 1 week ago
well i mean...you can't stop a war in another country by voting for it on some website.
the_q@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
ssupii@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
I don’t think being a basic working human of certain nationality makes you a war contributor
the_q@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Well it’s true even if you don’t like knowing it.
FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
All you’re doing is attempting to dehumanize and discredit people based on nationality. Literal MAGA mentality. No shit we pay taxes, do you not?Image
Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world 1 week ago
People feel so disempowered, don’t they? Yup. We tax payers directly fund genocide, and we should be fucking mad about it. We’re fighting a religious war, being manipulated by intelligence agencies and evangelicals. It’s bullshit, and rolling over is pathetic.
MBM@lemmings.world 1 week ago
If this was about Russia, lots of people would be disagreeing with you. Especially like 3 years ago
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
Not voluntarily.
the_q@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
I didn’t say it was voluntary.
sad_detective_man@leminal.space 1 week ago
they hated that 🤣
FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
Yeah, because it’s a really fucking stupid point to make. I didn’t choose to be born in America and I’m forced to pay taxes. It’s blaming every day citizens for their government’s actions regardless of the citizen’s actions or votes.
sad_detective_man@leminal.space 1 week ago
I’m also American. yes we are to blame for the actions of our country because our country was founded on the principle that we would get a say in what it does no matter what. We even have a hierarchy of rights to protect our ability to take responsibility for our country’s actions. From our right to free speech that protects our ability to protest, to our right to vote which protects our right to choose (in theory), to our right to own guns which allows us to protect the first two rights (when we don’t let anyone limit 2a), to our right to be educated enough to exercise all the previous rights.
When things have gone as wrong as they have, sure there are bad actors involved but at some point we fucked up and that’s on us. There will always be bad actors and we gotta be more responsible than just letting it go saying "well I didn’t have a choice ". Our failures affect the whole world.
merc@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Russia’s war on Ukraine shows you can’t stop a war in another country even with massive sanctions.
And, various empires’ adventures in Afghanistan show that even sending in troops to stop the “bad guys” will probably not work.
Sometimes people can make a change. The Apartheid governments of South Africa collapsed largely due to boycotts and people pressure. But, that only really works when the targeted country wants to be part of the community of nations, and its people don’t want to be seen as criminals by the rest of the world. IMO, that situation is rare. Most of the time the rest of the world can’t do much of anything when it comes to civil wars and border conflicts.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Not really. It is because Russia has nukes.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 week ago
Key example of why having Nukes is important. You become Gaza if you don’t have them.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 week ago
So, Israel has nukes and Russia has nukes, and now these countries can do whatever they want. I’m not sure you have such a great point.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
Just like you will never lose your virginity by talking to a horny chatbot.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Won’t lose my house either
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 week ago
Not losing it either way. Even if you do everything right, sometimes you are just cursed.
So it’s fine to have nothing.
oplkill@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You can make your government join the war to stop the war
ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 1 week ago
Kony 2012
some_random_nick@lemmy.world 1 week ago
What a shitshow that turned out to be…
herrvogel@lemmy.world 1 week ago
To think an evil African warlord was allowed to get away with it because of some silly laws against public masturbation or indecent exposure or whatever.
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Did he ever get elected after all that?
REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 week ago
Obligatory Internet Historian video
Fontasia@feddit.nl 1 week ago
At least we got a catchy song