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• lmdnw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The concept of an armed populace facing the government doesn’t usually involve a direct head on opposition. Armed resistance to a corrupt government would take a more guerrilla warfare approach. A real world example could be the anti-junta rebellion happening in Myanmar.

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• mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You’re forgetting that the US lost 3 wars to guerilla tactics, 2 of those in the last decade

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  • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Guerilla tactics in foreign countries on the other side of the planet, where they needed to overcome giant logistics problems.

    Fighting on their own territory where they already have all their bases and equipment is not going to end the same way.

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Fighting on their own territory where they already have all their bases and equipment is not going to end the same way.

      You’re forgetting that it’s also where most of the military’s supplies come from. That means their sources are more vulnerable as well

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    • PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It may not, but then the logistics becomes an even more insidious problem- how do you determine who is loyal to the government/military and who will disclose shipping routes or guard routines or other classified info. Further, because it is within the US, and the families of the loyalists are impacted, how do you guarantee their loyalty?

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  • ahornsirup@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The US lost because of domestic pressure to end those wars. Militarily the US was never in danger of defeat. Do you think that the current US administration is going to give a singular shit about domestic pressure once the shooting starts? If the military sides with the government, the government wins. If the military sides against the government the government loses.

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    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The war in Afghanistan went on for 20 years, with Iraq and Vietnam lasting not much less. And once the US military left all of those countries, all of the regimes that the US put into place fell apart relatively quickly.

      In what universe are those conditions a win? In what universe are they even a tie?!?

      I know you’re just parroting an argument you’ve seen written by someone else before. Maybe it’s because of patriotism. Maybe it’s because of pride and not wanting to admit defeat. Maybe it’s something else. Regardless, I ask that you take a step back and actually think about your comment logically.

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• SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Tanks need parts, tanks need fuel, tanks need constant maintenance. I’m not advocating for violence but the truth is an Abrams might have machine guns and ERA, but a factory doesn’t. And look how drone warfare has changed the game, small groups of people can take on tanks without even being in line of sight

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  • ahornsirup@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You don’t need to be in line of sight, your family needs to be. Are you still going to risk it if you know that the government will throw your family into a concentration camp in response?

    Assume that the fascists in this fight have zero respect for human rights or human lives. Because they’ve already proven that they don’t.

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    • piccolo@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Assume that the fascists in this fight have zero respect for human rights or human lives. Because they’ve already proven that they don’t.

      Even more reason to not roll over and let them win.

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    • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The government will throw your family into a concentration camp either way. Will you acquiese and die like a dog, or will you stand and fight?

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• possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m not worried about the tank, I’m worried about Tim, the guy from two doors down who has seventeen firearms and an F350 and walks around yelling homophobic slurs.

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  • ahornsirup@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Tim shouldn’t be allowed guns either.

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    • possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Tim ain’t gonna give up his guns without violence. Good luck with your proposal now.

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      • Honytawk@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        If we treated every criminal like that, the world would overflow with murderers and violent thugs even more than it already does.

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      • ahornsirup@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Then Tim is probably going to get himself killed in a standoff with the police.

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