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dharmacurious@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

I remember when I found out that shit was plastic. I always assumed they were organic material of some kind, like the body scrubs with the crushed up walnut shell in it (which probably has fucking microplastic in it, too). So disgusting.

This is why we need to change how shit works. It shouldn’t go: company does some shit > fall out > government steps in. It should go: company has an idea > must get permission first from environmental agencies

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theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Nah corporations really don’t give a shit at all, like all chewing gum is literally just plastic too and sheds tons of microplastics into your mouth as you chew it.

vice.com/…/rethink-chewing-gum-habit-essentially-…

Plastic is an organic material though, so your assumption was correct.

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- moody@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  The difference is in the definition or organic. When the average person thinks organic, they mean something that is or used to be alive. When a scientist think organic, they’re talking about carbon compounds.
  
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  - Wrufieotnak@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Plastic are made from fossil fuels which are from primordial plants. So still organic according to your definition. Just a few hundred million years since it was alive.
    
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- T156@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Interesting. Always thought chewing gum was more like when you made “plastic” out of the caesin in milk.
  
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  - Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    You can buy chewing gum made from natural materials but it’s not the norm. Most chewing gum is made from mineral oil.
    
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    fristislurper@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Also, chemically they are identical. Plastic made of a plant is still a plastic.
    
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interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Plastic is an organic material, trees are mostly plastic (lignin, a phenolic polymer, cellulose a polysaccharide polymer, hemicellulose an heteropolysaccharide and suberin a polyester-like polymer).

The problem we’re having is a naturalistic fallacy crossed with the unpleasant fact that almost everything we touch sheds dust and powder absolutely everywhere. This along with spores and yeast and other dusts constantly enter our bodies.

Plastic is only of note because we made it.

Any problems beyond that is speculative and will requires ginormous gobs of grant money to actually answer with anything than precautionary principle-based FUD.

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- Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Hydrocarbon based plastic absolutely isnt natural, there are many different kinds of plastic in existence but overwhelmingly stuff from the last 50 years has been the inorganic hydrocarbon type which doesn’t break down and is likely a endocrinologal distruptor & a carcinogen.
  
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  - interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    inorganic hydrocarbon
    
    Hydrocarbons are, by definition, organic compounds made exclusively of carbon and hydrogen.
    
    Do you know of any hydrocarbon that do not contain hydrogen nor carbon and that are relevant to this discussion ?
    
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    Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Care to not nitpick a slip of the mind (that’s already been pointed out and corrected) literally just after I had woken up and address the actual point?
    
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  - EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    inorganic hydrocarbon
    
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    Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Had just woken up my mistake! Hadn’t gotten to the coffee yet xd.
    
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Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
i assumed it was just glass or similar, maybe the same material as those moisture-absorbing silica packets

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