Comment on The future of warfare is now

LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Minor correction, it’s a million casualties on the Russian side. Dead number is probably around 300k.

  But seriously, imagine going from the number 2 world power to a paper tiger that relies on old stock because they don’t have the manufacturing capabilities to mass produce new equipment. They can barely keep the old shit running.

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  • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re so desperate they literally buying shit from North Korea at a premium

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean, its a war. Nobody is playing “fair” and you’re crazy if you think they ever were.

  But it’s crazy to fixate on Russian losses and ignore the devastation rained on Ukrainian territory. Or the enormous debts Zelensky has had to assume in order to continue importing new munitions and mercenaries to fight. We’ve already seen bombings inside Moscow and assassination attempts (more than a few successful even) against Russian military and state security leadership.

  But that’s not budging the front lines. Neither is it curbing the continuous barrage of artillery and Russian-based retaliatory drone attacks.

  This is just the Iraq-Iran War on steroids. Two countries absolutely butchering their youth in a vainglorious attempt to claim hegemony over a minefield.

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  • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ukraine is obviously the victim here. The Ukrainian people are amazing and have their own rich history and culture as well that deserves to be preserved and respected and cultivated. They do not deserve any of this.

      It’s weird to suggest anyone would. But we’ve been hearing about how “Now is the time for a Ukrainian counterattack!” since 2022. Tens of thousands of Ukrainian conscripts got shoveled into Russian defense lines and butchered by mines and artillery, while Westerners cheered like they were watching some kind of pro-sporting event.

      FFS, you can find videos all over the internet of Ukrainians and Russians butchering one another and bragging about it. You can find bespoke influencer news networks bragging about how their team is “Owning” the opposition with grisly reprisals.

      Talking about one does not mean I don’t care about the other.

      It’s just a show for the West. You don’t actually give a shit, because you don’t see (or care) about the cost anyone is paying.

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      • Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This entire post is literally about a successful counterattack on Russian soil. One with zero Ukrainian casualties.

        What, exactly, do you want from this conversation? People to recognize that Ukrainians are suffering? They do recognize that - that’s why they don’t want Ukraine to lose.

        A defeated Ukraine would suffer far worse than they are now, as retribution for defending themselves and embarassing Russia in the process. Ukrainians would inevitably be conscripted to fight in Russia’s next attempt at conquest anyway.

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      • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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      • Gorilladrums@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You will never find anybody as morally reprehensible as Marxists who support and defend Russia’s genocide in Ukraine. Go fuck yourself Russian shill

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  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The war stops when Russia, imperialist aggressor, stops.

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Don’t get your hopes up

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      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        True. Because with the rate of Russian advance, it will take them decades to even fully occupy the oblasts they want to occupy. By then, Putin will be dead and that is only when Russia fully ceases attacking.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Highly doubtful.

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  • FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is just the Iraq-Iran War on steroids. Two countries absolutely butchering their youth in a vainglorious attempt to claim hegemony over a minefield.

    What the fuck are you even talking about?

    There are no “two countries butchering”. There is no symmetry.

    There is a bandit state which invaded their neighbour (like many other neighbours they invaded before) and are murdering civilians, commiting war crimes and kidnapping children.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There are no “two countries butchering”.

      How many more hundreds of thousands of people have to die before the language sticks?

      There is a bandit state which invaded their neighbour

      It’s two populations of conscripts being shoved together in a rain of artillery and a morass of land mines.

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      • FelixCress@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Russian troll alert.

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      • LandedGentry@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you were to apply this same logic during various points during the world wars, you’d have been calling for the allies to surrender.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Imagine if people had listened at the start of WW1 and stopped the fighting before Germany, Russia, and France were in trench warfare melee.

      How awful would that have been?

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  • real_squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    wow you’re such an empath

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    • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Patriot brainrot

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• SalamenceFury@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  bro what the hell happened down here 😭😭

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