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Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

This entire post is literally about a successful counterattack on Russian soil. One with zero Ukrainian casualties.

What, exactly, do you want from this conversation? People to recognize that Ukrainians are suffering? They do recognize that - that’s why they don’t want Ukraine to lose.

A defeated Ukraine would suffer far worse than they are now, as retribution for defending themselves and embarassing Russia in the process. Ukrainians would inevitably be conscripted to fight in Russia’s next attempt at conquest anyway.

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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

One with zero Ukrainian casualties.

Zero reported casualties. And then nobody wants to talk about retaliation as a consequence.

A defeated Ukraine would suffer far worse

“Things will be worse once the bombs stop falling” is pure war propaganda.

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- Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Lol what unreported casualties do you imagine there could even be? The drone operators developing carpal tunnel?
  
  And then nobody wants to talk about retaliation as a consequence.
  
  Right, because Russia hasn’t been trying until now? They haven’t really tried to crush Ukraine, they’ve just been playing around? But now that Ukraine has bloodied their nose, boy are they sure gonna find out what Russia’s capable of. Lol.
  
  “Things will be worse once the bombs stop falling” is pure war propaganda.
  
  No, “things will be worse when a nation is conquered by a hostile dictatorship” is not propaganda. Ukraine knows that for a fact, because they’ve been through this before.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    Lol
    
    What is it with the 101st Chairborn and their need to make light of human casualties?
    
    what unreported casualties do you imagine there could even be?
    
    Intelligence on the ground, particularly spotters near the target, would be the most obvious potential liabilities.
    
    But now that Ukraine has bloodied their nose
    
    They’ve been bloodying one another for years on end. This isn’t the first successfully Ukrainian strike since the war started.
    
    Seriously, what do you even want here?
    
    To quite treating this bloodbath as a fucking football game.
    
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    Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m not making light of casualties, I’m making light of the baseless claim that there even could be casualties, because I reiterate:
    
    If they had identified Ukrainians smuggling weapons platforms into the country, the whole operation would have failed.
    
    You think if they found spotters deep in Russian territory near their nuclear bombers the operation would have succeeded?
    
    So, you’re not gonna defend the claim that we should worry about retaliation? Just move the conversation elsewhere? This is so incredibly bad faith.
    
    To quite treating this bloodbath as a fucking football game.
    
    Congratulations, it’s not working. You just sound like a cheerleader yourself.
    
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