And why the hell is effectively running stop signs and red lights so normalized too?
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GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Why the hell is speeding so normalized?
habitualcynic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
I haven’t seen this in Sweden, while speeding is fairly common.
habitualcynic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
That makes sense, this is what I see in the selfish US. Be vigilant and keep your country and cultural mindset the way it is or better.
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 months ago
If you are in America, its because our police fucking suck
habitualcynic@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Yup, US; and yup our police are mostly worthless or worse. I’ve never seen consequences even for DUI offenders.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 months ago
This.
I drive by the limit, and every time I say this a bunch of folks jumps in saying I am the problem when I stop my lane and poor poor speeders have to adapt and not crash into each other.
Speed limits are there for a reason. Speeders love to say shit like “they’re outdated”, but this is also wrong, they are up to date with vehicles on the road.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Nah. Drive by the flow of traffic.
Unobservant people who are “following the rule” in dynamic situations usually create more danger than people adapting to the situation.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 months ago
The danger is created in the first place by normalization of speeding.
I am aware that, technically, if I’d drive by traffic at any given time, accidents will be less likely. But this danger of variable speed is not created by me moving too slow, it’s because of others moving too fast, because speeding is normalized in the first place. The lane speed should be the within bounds of speed limit, the rest is not and should never be my problem or fault.
Now, don’t get me wrong, if my actions can prevent an actually imminent accident (such as speeding up to let someone return to lane before reverse traffic traps them) - of course I will. But for regular driving, I will strictly adhere to the rules and regulations. If this gets someone who breaks the rules in an accident - that’s on them, maybe it’ll teach them a lesson.
Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 3 months ago
The “normalization of speeding” is because human beings didn’t evolve to travel at the speeds available to anyone with a driver’s license. In other words, you’re asking for a revision of human nature, which is simply not a practical solution. What would be practical is a system of public transportation that makes individual cars moot, or at least less of an intrinsic necessity, but in the US, there are moneyed interests who will fanatically push back on any alternate options. Car makers, insurance companies, bars and restaurants, and even the “healthcare” industry all profit from people having to own a car and use said car to navigate living in this country. You’d need to provide a broad and low-cost alternative, while dismantling those entrenched interests to make a new paradigm stick.
So, in the meantime, it sounds like your driving habits are stick-in-the-mud and you likely create impediments to the flow of traffic, as others adapt around your unwillingness to modify behaviors to the situation. The fact that you see yourself as some kind of shining example of driving purity and hope that other drivers get into an accident as some weird punitive recourse means is really troubling. Maybe you should talk to a professional about your moralistic judgementalism and anger issues.
Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Technically speaking, speed limits are set for worst conditions.
As in very rainy, very windy, poor visibility, etc.
So no, in your day to day life in ideal conditions — you do not need to follow the speed limit. Am I saying go double the speed limit? No. 10 miles above the speed limit is fine, though.
That being said, people who tailgate others can go fuck themselves. There’s never a good reason to be so close behind another car.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 months ago
For worst conditions, it’s a common recommendation to slow down even further.
You do not want to drive by the limit when the road is slippery, the side wind blows your car away, and visibility is 10 feet.
RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Because people don’t like to obey rules mostly
Aermis@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Because most speed limit zones have little to do with public safety and more to do with enforcing monetary ticket infractions.
But tailgating is and will always be a dick move
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 months ago
Because on a lot of highways the speed limit is a joke. The 4 lane one I take to work is completely straight for like 30 miles and they have it set at 60mph. Many vehicles can (and do) easily go 80-90 on that without an issue. Proper lane usage and adhering to a safe following distance are far more important in terms of safety. There shouldn’t even be a speed limit in my opinion considering the wide variety of vehicles on the road. It’s pretty simple, drive as slow as you want just do it in the correct lane unless you’re passing. Signal. Pass in the passing lane. Don’t tailgate.
If they need to write tickets for revenue they can get people for cruising in the wrong lane all day long.
Allero@lemmy.today 3 months ago
I’m pretty sure those who have set it at 60mph have calculations you didn’t consider.
Maybe there are places on the road where someone may suddenly appear, be it human or a wild animal? Maybe the road can get slippery? Maybe the cars going above 60mph create too much noise in the neighborhood? There are many more reasons one could set a road at that, and many may not even come to your mind.
And no, this is almost certainly not about tickets.
Acters@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I wish vehicles made it harder to go above 65 MPH. Like I want to save money in this economy. Going above 65 is mostly a complete waste of money and will more likely than not save less than a minute or none at all because we all will hit the same red lights on the city streets. I hate how normalized we all become to it. I now mostly drive city streets with either electric vehicle or electric bike. Rent is criminally expensive, people really expecting me to waste money driving 75 on the highway? Fuck that
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 months ago
Maybe if you have a short commute. I can knock 15-20 minutes off my driving if traffic is light. That time is more valuable than the extra pennies I’d save on gas by driving slower.
alphamule@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Distance where going 75mph vs 65mph is 15min faster:
(d / 65mph) - (d / 75mph) =.25h
75d / 4875 - 65d / 4875 = .25
10d = .25 * 4875
d = .25 * 4875 / 10 = 121.875 mi
Pretty long commute
Acters@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Ha, what kind of commute are you doing cross country? That is a wildly long commute. If you find that you need to do 50 to 60 mile commutes then it’s not the norm here. Most of my commutes are within 15 to 25 miles. Driving on the highway at 75 saves as I said, with 1 minute or none at all just because I will hit the same red lights at the same time as others, mind you I do notice when someone flies past me on the fast lane and we reach the same exit ramp stop light.
The pedal isn’t telling you, it’s basically making it so that you have to consciously push harder to go faster.(A natural deterrent to those who like to just push the car faster and faster without feeling).
Sorry if you like going fast, and your unnaturally long commute is required. I rather save money instead of living like I never can save any money. Prices went up, I felt the economy lose control. You think Trump is going to lower them? Not really confident in that myself.
Acters@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Plus saving pennies on gas? Sorry but that is the nature of a gas vehicle. They have a really short window of mpg between granny driving and rocketing at 75+.
I calculated it plenty. when driving 65 MPH, the air resistance is good enough for you to get 28 to 30 mpg. Let’s keep it simple and just say 30 mile trip. At 75+ MPH, your efficiency starts taking a major hit. You will likely be traveling at 25 MPG. That is a +20 percent increase on gas consumption. If you think of it, that is a consistent 18% to 20% loss on gas.
At $3.50/g(my current market) with an additional 20% increase of fuel usage so, $3.50 * 1.2 = $4.20
For a 15 gallon tank, you are burning $63 worth of fuel on average.
While on electric vehicle, it depends on types of charging. If you have solar then it’s free, I don’t. If you have simple home charger, my current rate is 20 cents per kWh. If you fast charge, then it is 50 to 60 cents per kWh.
Most of the time I am getting between 3.5(above 65 MPH) to 4.5(below 65 MPH) Miles per kWh. With 30 mile trip that is 8.57 kWh to 6.67 kWh usage. This helps translate to cost of gas because 1 gallon at 65 MPH is about 30 miles. So if I do only home charging that is $1.70 to $1.33 for electric. Fast charging that is about $4.70 to $3.67 for just the 30 miles.
15 gallons of gas can get you 375 miles at 25 MPG, or 450 at 30 MPG. Remember $63 for driving at 25 MPG vs $52.5 for driving at 30 MPG. With electric driving, to get 375 mile at 3.5 miles per kWh or 450 miles at 4.5 miles per kWh. we can translate them over.
(Above 65 MPH) 375/3.5 = 107.15 kWh * $0.20 = $21.42
(Below 65 MPH) 450/4.5 = 100 kWh * $0.20 = $20.00
(Above 65 MPH) 107.15 kWh * $0.55 (fast charge) = $58.92
(Below 65 MPH) 100 kWh * $0.55 = $55.00
See now how crazy expensive that becoming for gas while electric is barely taking a hit? Makes little difference for electric vehicles, but gas? That is not pennies.
Guidy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Then drive in the general purpose lane on the right AKA the “slow lane”. If anybody is mad at you for driving slowly in the slow lane, they are stupid and you shouldn’t trouble yourself over them.
Just don’t do it in any other lane, and you’re fine.
LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 3 months ago
in a multi lane highway, nobody expects you to be blazing when you’re on the outside lane. people only get pissed when you’re driving limit on the inside lane. if u wanna drive comfortably, just use the right lanes so people can pass you if they want. if it’s a single lane highway, don’t give a shit about others as long as you’re not way under the limit. there are almost always overtake sections of those highways where you see the “slower traffic use right lane”.
plus, there are roads with limits higher than 65 all over the place and there are recreational things you might want to do with your car.
Acters@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I already am, don’t worry, plenty of people like to ride my ass, even when we can’t go any faster.