I feel like self-identifying Marxists are pretty aligned with the Trump agenda, tbh.
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random_character_a@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well, US could use a little Karl. Things have been getting ridiculous for a while now.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
they don’t wanna hear it, but both of them want authoritarianism
anachrohack@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fuck communism all my homies hate communism
deaf_fish@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
You also hate capitalism right?
epicstove@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I dislike both.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No. Capitalism is the primary engine for human development. Thanks to capitalism, fewer people now live in extreme poverty than don’t. This means that, starting in the 1970s and accelerating today, less than half the world (and the number continues to decrease) lives in extreme poverty.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
What do you think most younger people not ever being able to afford their own property? Or the fact that grocery costs have been skyrocketing to unaffordable levels even if you make good money? All while billionaires are hoarding unfathomable amounts of wealth? Extreme poverty might not be as high globally but regular poverty is gaining traction at record speeds.
You might say that the inequality can be fixed with more regulations, but we started with more regulations (in Canada and the US at least) and they’ve been slowly torn apart by the wealthy over time. How do you guard against that when having vast wealth enables you to trick people into voting against their best interests?
I wouldn’t call myself a communist but capitalism ends in the extreme poverty that you say it solves.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If one starts from the assumption that extreme poverty is the natural state of humanity, then it may appear as good news that only a fraction of the global population lives in extreme poverty today. However, if extreme poverty is a sign of severe social dislocation, relatively rare under normal conditions, then it should concern us that - despite many instances of progress since the middle of the 20th century - such dislocation remains so prevalent under contemporary capitalism. Depending on the subsistence basket one uses to measure poverty, as of 2008, between 200 million and 1.21 billion people live in extreme poverty (Moatsos, 2017, Moatsos, 2021; see also our discussion in Appendix VI).18 While direct comparisons with the wage data are difficult because of the variety of baskets used, this suggests that under contemporary capitalism hundreds of millions of people currently live in conditions comparable to Europe during the Black Death (Figure 4, Figure 5), the catastrophes induced by the American genocides (Figure 7) and the slave trade (Figure 9), or famine-ravaged British India (Figure 11). To the extent there has been progress against extreme poverty in recent decades, it has generally been slow and shallow.
Conclusions
In sum, the narrative that the rise of capitalism drove progress against extreme poverty is not supported by empirical evidence. On the contrary, the rise of capitalism was associated with a notable decline in human welfare, a trend that was only reversed around the twentieth century, when radical and progressive social movements sought to gain some control over production and organize it more around meeting human needs. As for the condition of extreme poverty, it cannot legitimately be used as a benchmark for measuring progress. Extreme poverty is not a natural condition, but an effect of dispossession, enclosure, and exploitation. It need not exist anywhere, and certainly should not exist in any just and humane society. It can and must be abolished immediately. If our goal is to achieve substantive improvements in human welfare, progress should be measured against decent living standards and access to modern amenities. Capitalism currently shows no signs of ever meeting this objective, and imperialist dynamics in the world economy seem actively to prevent it. As we have seen, the historical record is clear that public planning and socialist policy can be effective at delivering rapid economic, technological, and social development. Rediscovering the power of this approach will be essential if Global South governments are to increase their economic sovereignty and mobilize production to ensure decent lives for all.48 Achieving this objective requires building political movements of the Southern working classes and peasantries powerful enough to replace governments that currently are captured by political factions aligned with national or international capital; reducing reliance on core creditors, currencies, and imports; and establishing South-South alliances capable of withstanding any retaliation. Progressive formations in the core should be prepared to support and defend these movements.
random_character_a@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well there’s Marxism, Leninism and whatever monsterous fuck that was circling in Stalins noggin.
_stranger_@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fascism. It was Fascism.
random_character_a@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s funny how extreme left and extreme right end up in very similar end result. Corrupt elite controlling the flow of information, wealth and industry while purging the undesired.
anachrohack@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The official state religion of the Soviet Union was called “Marxism-Leninism”
random_character_a@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yes, and ISIS brobably calls themselves islamists, but I wouldn’t wanna define islam by those fuckwits.
Bolsheviks were the taleban of marxism.
ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Trump is very occupied by thoughts of Carlos Marcos
superkret@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Also, pope Leo Trotsky