Comment on Bella Ramsey Says ‘It’s Important’ to Keep Gendered Awards for Best Actor and Actress: ‘Recognition for Women in the Industry’ Must Be ‘Preserved’

• Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Women don’t exist and don’t need recognition”

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  • Ross_audio@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Women exist and are equal to men in artistic spheres. There is no reason they can’t compete for the same award.

    The need for separate recognition of men and women implies separate standards for men and women.

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    • geekwithsoul@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If Hollywood considered them equal, they would be paid the same as men for similar roles. While that can happen, it’s still the exception. And usually only happens for women who’ve won awards.

      When Hollywood stops basing pay on gender, then we can get rid of the gendered awards.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And having separate categories solves that how? You’re just perpetuating the very thing you’re declaring is a problem.

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      • System_below@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No actor is paid the same as any other actor wyd?

        They each have an individual value in the industry. Like if the rock is acting alongside Jennifer Aniston then the rock is obviously going to be paid more.

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    • Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are you telling me there isn’t major sexism in Hollywood?

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Please don’t reply to me with your misogyny.

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    • jacksilver@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think they were trying to call out that women are still underrepresented in a lot of different ways. Removing gendered based awards reduces the opportunities for women to be recognized, if you believe they are underrepresented.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Its not an opportunity for them to be recognized, it’s an opportunity for them to be belittled. Like “oh you’re totally the best woman actor, congratulations! Maybe one day you’ll be as good as the men!”

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• FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  While I agree in theory the problem in practice due to industry bias is basically only men will win

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And again, this doesn’t solve that problem.

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    • Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It solves the problem of Women not being recognised for their work.

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No it doesn’t. There’s a giant asterisk on every award that they’re given.

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• Chip_Rat@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yeah I’d have to say I’m in the “we need to keep the categories” camp but I admit I don’t know how we would properly acknowledge bi or non-gendered or anyone between or betwixt.

  And we should have a way because there is no reason someone like Bella (love them btw) won’t give an award winning performance as a bi-sexual or something and then wtf do we do.

  I don’t know the answer.

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• golden_zealot@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s true as well. They could also create more categories I suppose.

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  • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They should have a category for Best Chris

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    • FooBarrington@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      🎶 I heard a lady boned a fish man 🎶

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