Comment on Want happier employees? Start with a 32-hour workweek – and 4 weeks vacation.

• SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I always wonder why people like this are on here.

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Do you require an echo chamber or do you want to actually bring change?

    If you can’t even convince me.

    I worked a year 32h a week. I don’t see the issue why you don’t just do that. You get paid for those 32 hours ya know

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    • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have no clue what you’re trying to say.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You don’t understand much

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• 10001110101@lemm.ee ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If you’re implying you want to spend as much time away from your family as possible, you could just get a divorce. Wouldn’t have to sell all your life to shareholders then.

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I got 5 evenings and 2 days on the weekend, it’s plenty

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      congratulations. go back to work.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yeah, I like working for my family since I love them

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• LePoisson@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sitting at home on my toilet married with a child. So I feel equally qualified to say this as you.

  Fuck capitalism and that exploitation. What, you used to have empathy and care and now you’re a selfish asshole? How is that good, it’s definitely not funny, it’s just sad.

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Who said I ever had empathy? I use logic. If you’re going to try and convince me, I’d suggest trying to use logic as well. It’s fairly easy to convince people with logic. Using your emotions etc will only cause polarisation, echo chambers, …

    If you want to work 32 hours, go work 32 hours. Nobody is stopping you.

    I’ve worked 32 hours for a year. Has its benefits. Just less money. Now that my wife is working half time, I’m obviously going to work more.

    You know what work reform I’d love to see? One where pay is based on production. Not time. So when I do twice what you do in the same amount of time, I bring home twice the money.

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    • Furbag@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You know what work reform I’d love to see? One where pay is based on production. Not time.

      Funny, that’s what we want too. Production now is higher than ever before in the history of humanity, yet our wages and salaries have been stagnant for decades. If we are producing more than ever before, why do we need to work so many hours per week? We should either be fairly compensated for that productivity or we should not be required to produce more than we are fairly paid for, which should translate to either a drastic salary increase to match the increased demand for productivity or a drastic decrease in hours worked (without a reduction in pay, since you agree that pay should be based on production).

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you lower your working hours to 32 hours per week then this would happen.

        Foreign countries their labour will gain in desirability for capital.

        Your area will still require the environment to keep you alive, so if you are simply surviving, then it would be a good choice for you.

        Now, I live in Belgium. We have a median net worth of 250k euros per adult. We have a lot to lose. If we work less, we simply have less money.

        The good thing to do, would be to earn more money. Not work less.

        You know how much Indonesians work? Singaporeans? Chinese? They work more than us.

        Belgians statistically work only a few hours a week. Do you think our high median net wealth came from nothing?

        We work at our property after our hours.

        My dad never hired anyone to do anything in the house. He did everything himself. We don’t have a gardener. We do all of it ourselves.

        Belgians work part time for themselves.

        The truth is that value does not come without labour. Can’t magically lay on the couch and expect value to arise.

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    • LePoisson@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Cool, you’re shitting on people getting more vacation time and better pay for … What reason again? Because you got married and had a kid?

      Use logic to make that make sense to me. Also I’ll hit you with some logic right here, your own in fact.

      You know what work reform I’d love to see? One where pay is based on production.

      Sweet, worker productivity has soared while ages stagnated. Paying people the same amount of money to do 32 hours of work vs 40 is a step making pay more aligned with production. Exactly what you want!

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I want the wage system abolished. Everyone should be a sub-contractor. Paid on what they provide. Not on how much time they are there.

        My co-workers are people like here. They say “don’t have ambition” “we’re just work folk” “if you do double the work you only get paid the same amount anyways”.

        The mentality my family doesn’t have. Somehow my family all end up being high earners.

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    • toomanypancakes@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Who said I ever had empathy? I use logic.

      Honestly all that needed to be said. Fucking utilitarians.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Empaths are pretty boring. Basically like toddlers throwing tantrums

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• Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Man having a wife and kid made me want to be at home more, not less. I would leap at the opportunity to have 32 hour weeks and tons of vacation. I would even consider going into the office a second day of the week for that.

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I worked 0 hours before having a reason to work. I barely need money. I make money for my family.

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    • hark@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Now imagine being able to provide for your family without being away from your family for so long.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Kids tend to go to school after age of 3

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• Atropos@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So… You want to avoid your family?

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nah, I want my kid to be a millionaire. Takes me 37,5 work hours a week

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    • rylock@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Your kid is going to be a little shit with a father like you and all that money handed to him.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

        Money won’t be handed to the kid. Just the naked property rights until I die.

        To prevent paying far too many taxes of course.

        150k euros every 3 years at 3% taxes. Obviously undervalued property.

        Kid will grow up like I did. Low consumption spending, high savings rate.

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• gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Nice LARP, kid

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My dick’s the size of a banana, adult

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• GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You know, you could just talk with your wife and/or find something more worthwhile to do than putting in the maximum physically possible hours at work.

  Or just get a divorce, because that’s faster and cheaper than avoiding your family until your wife divorces you and your kids resent you, and has the same end result.

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    My dad worked more than me, nobody resented him. My inheritance was 500k euros. My kid’s inheritance will be above a million euros.

    Silly people

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    • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      “Silly people” says the guy who hit the birth lottery of inheriting fuck you money from the start and still can’t think of anything worthwhile to do.

      Why do you even work with 500k in the bank? Why don’t you live off your investments and capital gains somewhere in the carribean? Why do you think your kids need even more money instead of their Dad being there? Holy shit.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Because the kid is better off in Belgium than in Indonesia.

        My parents started with 0. Why would I be as selfish as to waste their money? It’s not my money. It’s my family’s money.

        It just lowers our cost of living and gains compound interest.

        My kid will have the naked property of it until I die. It’s never being sold.

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• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Ok, Boomer.

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m 29, just not 19 like you folks

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    • SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      I’m 38. I used to think like you. Then I realised it was a business not a person and my boss wasn’t my friend, and that I should be getting more for less.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        I basically aim to job hop for promotion. I work for large organisations, which enjoy economies of scale. And thus they are able to pay me more than my previous boss earns, who was a small business owner.

        I’m not naive. I don’t ask for promotion or anything. They either give it to me or they suffer brain drain.

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    • WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This checks out. You sound EXACTLY like me when I was 29 and an insufferable know-nothing piece of shit. Now I’m embarrassed for both of us.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ah doesn’t matter, I’m in my prime.

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    • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Having boomer opinions is a mindset thing, not an age thing.

      Also: I’m older than you.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Are you richer than me tho

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• lime@feddit.nu ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  wife bad amirite

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  • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    She will work 20 hours a week and now during pregnancy she doesn’t work at all.

    Being a responsible father is good.

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    • Saleh@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You know, most countries have both time off for expecting women and paid time off for mothers of newborns and increasingly for the fathers too.

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      • Wanpieserino@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I live in one of those countries. 20 days for me. 1 august to february for my wife.

        I’m gonna ask her company to give her the rest off as well during pregnancy unpaid.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      your dangerfield needs work

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