Comment on The gentrified forest near me removed the bins. .. From their café/picnic area

ericthemighty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• alphapuggle@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  While this is the ideal outcome, in reality people are just going to throw their trash in the bushes.

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  • RejZoR@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    People who do this already did even when bins were still there. Because placing rubbish into pocket or backpack is so hard!

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  • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    And they should be fined for dumping.

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    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Or the park could invest in basic services instead of criminalizing guests.

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      • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Littering used to be illegal most places. It should be illegal pretty much every public place. If you’re breaking the law, you’re criminalizing yourself. This is like saying we shouldn’t resurface roads because it criminalizes speeders.

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• spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Saying they are committed to producing no rubbish on a sign, then selling things that result in rubbish, is hypocritical.

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  • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Do you have an example of something that would be sold that had no resulting rubbish?

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    • real_squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      bread bowl lol

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      • deegeese@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        You eat the spoon?

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      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Bread comes in a package. The soup that goes in it had a container….

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    • evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Food that comes on reused plates and/or drinks in reused cups. Much of the advertising around littering prevention was developed by industries who saw profits in creating a lot of single use items that wanted to shift the blame for any litter to individuals instead of them. When you see an empty bottle of Pepsi floating in a pond, Pepsi deserves more criticism than whoever dropped that specific bottle since they are the ones who brought it into the world, and they do it on a much larger scale than any 1 person could ever manage.

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      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Food that comes on reused plates and/or drinks in reused cups.

        The food all came in packaging, and stuff breaks or gets dropped, nothing is ever rubbish free…

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    • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      No, which is why it’s stupid to take bins away from stores/cafes.

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      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I don’t see a cafe in the picture? Are you sure this isn’t down the trail and the cafe still has a garbage…?

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    • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      A corndog with a twizzler for the stick

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• CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I can see taking things that I brought with me like granola bar wrappers and water bottles, but if you have a cafe selling cheeseburgers, fountain drinks, and coffee, it seems dumb to expect people to carry all that home rather than allowing them to throw it away at the same place they bought and consumed it.

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  • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yeah but the Cafe does have bins inside. It’s just the park that removed the public waste bins.

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    • CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Well, I hadn’t seen that mentioned anywhere, so if that’s the case I agree it’s not a big deal to pack your trash back to the cafe.

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      • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yeah I guess that tidbit was added in later by OP when people started asking questions.

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• deur@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  You’re weird for not knowing the OP’s actual point?

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• Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s a cafe area; they are giving you trash with your meal/drink, not providing a bin for it, then expecting you to pack it out.

  Expecting people to packout the garbage they brought with them is one thing (that still doesn’t get followed); but if you’re going to provide the public with trash, you’ve gotta give them somewhere to dispose of it.

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  • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The cafe has bins. OP amended the post admitting that they do. The bins are inside, but either way, they do exist.

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