I would argue more generally that censoring words like this is unhelpful and counterproductive.
As seen in the link in the post body, not only can it inhibit clear communication, but anyone actually using the slur would be more clearly identified if the slur remained - thus allowing the mods to definitively identify the user as bigoted and banning them. Replacing it with ‘removed’ creates ambiguity in combating bigotry as well as edge cases and discussions of words - as in the linked case.
We dont censor words, thats just a way that lemmy works. On local its behaviour is not to censor it, rather block it. To not block federation, lemmy just censors it instead of ignoring/blocking the comment or post.
Censorship, if ever truly necessary, should be reactive not proactive. Humans simply cannot correctly foretell the possible scenarios where an otherwise unacceptable word or term needs to be written down and discussed. A million correct removals do not justify killing even one meaningful discussion. That’s the nature of free speech.
You would think that now, more than ever, we (especially we here) would understand how important that freedom is and how inherently destructive any attempt at “pre-crime” always turns out to be.
Eh, there’s a few words that are perfectly fine to be auto censored because of the absolute shit that they’re tied to.
If we can’t have a discussion over the n word without someone coming along that’s had to deal with that slur in their face having to deal with it again, then it isn’t a useful conversation. See, everyone knows what word I’m talking about, no need to have it there, waiting like an antipersonnel mine to hit someone just cruising along lemmy having a good day.
There aren’t many words that carry the kind of weight that one does, but they exist.
Turn it off completely. I opened a thread about it a while back when I tried to recommend WGM Jennifer Shahade’s book “Chess Bi tch” and both the title and link got censored. Not good. We aren’t kids here and if something needs removal, leave it to human mods and reports.
The post in question uses the word removed to describe a literal bundle of sticks and the fact that we are all adults but can’t read the post limits the usability of this space.
ruud@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I would say if there’s a word that’s censored which you think shouldn’t, let us know.
PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I would argue more generally that censoring words like this is unhelpful and counterproductive.
As seen in the link in the post body, not only can it inhibit clear communication, but anyone actually using the slur would be more clearly identified if the slur remained - thus allowing the mods to definitively identify the user as bigoted and banning them. Replacing it with ‘removed’ creates ambiguity in combating bigotry as well as edge cases and discussions of words - as in the linked case.
Rooki@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We dont censor words, thats just a way that lemmy works. On local its behaviour is not to censor it, rather block it. To not block federation, lemmy just censors it instead of ignoring/blocking the comment or post.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All of them.
Censorship, if ever truly necessary, should be reactive not proactive. Humans simply cannot correctly foretell the possible scenarios where an otherwise unacceptable word or term needs to be written down and discussed. A million correct removals do not justify killing even one meaningful discussion. That’s the nature of free speech.
You would think that now, more than ever, we (especially we here) would understand how important that freedom is and how inherently destructive any attempt at “pre-crime” always turns out to be.
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Eh, there’s a few words that are perfectly fine to be auto censored because of the absolute shit that they’re tied to.
If we can’t have a discussion over the n word without someone coming along that’s had to deal with that slur in their face having to deal with it again, then it isn’t a useful conversation. See, everyone knows what word I’m talking about, no need to have it there, waiting like an antipersonnel mine to hit someone just cruising along lemmy having a good day.
There aren’t many words that carry the kind of weight that one does, but they exist.
solrize@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Turn it off completely. I opened a thread about it a while back when I tried to recommend WGM Jennifer Shahade’s book “Chess Bi tch” and both the title and link got censored. Not good. We aren’t kids here and if something needs removal, leave it to human mods and reports.
BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 2 months ago
hunter2
Magister@lemmy.world 2 months ago
censor is working, all I see is ******* in your post
AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Should this censoring be pushed to the client side? That way users can choose what they want filtered.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The post in question uses the word removed to describe a literal bundle of sticks and the fact that we are all adults but can’t read the post limits the usability of this space.
Plus it’s fucking cringe