Comment on For No Reason in Particular Here's a Bunch of Games Where You Kill Nazis
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 2 months ago
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Comment on For No Reason in Particular Here's a Bunch of Games Where You Kill Nazis
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 2 months ago
timewarp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I literally see front page posts on Reddit now daily advocating for murdering cosplay Nazis, with plenty of comments cheering on saying it is your duty as an American. At the same time Trump just announced that America will take over the Gaza strip so we can send our troops to clean up unexploded bombs, fight on behalf of Israel, & rebuild it with your taxpayer money as a gift to Trump’s handler, Netanyahu.
Cosplay Nazis are misguided, but violently attack & advocating for murdering people for exercising their free speech is both gross & no different than what people claim that Nazis represent. A majority of these cosplay Nazis are online edgelords, who have never even been violent. Israel clearly owns America’s politicians, so it understandable that people would fall into a conspiracy trap to believe that we were lied to about world history.
It is also convenient timing, because soon the protestors that called the massacre & leveling of Gaza a genocide, and those that protest what is going to happen in Gaza, are going to be called Nazis as well.
Murdering, attacking people, & suckerpunching them isn’t going to win people over to your side of history. It will only make them more extreme & increase their numbers. It is just as disgusting & a crime as well, and President Musk has already stated that he intends to make prisoners work the assembly lines for him as part of capital punishment.
catloaf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Nobody is talking about cosplay nazis.
ch00f@lemmy.world 2 months ago
“We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
-Kurt Vonnegut
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If that’s true, the comment being downvoted like this is… interested. On Lemmy, you’re either a Nazi killer or lover, which is interesting since 99.999999% of people here have never killed anyone, let alone a Nazi. We can say fuck Nazis but also say that murder is wrong.
Adalast@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No, he is right. The only people ‘cosplaying’ Nazis are Nazis. If you are an actor on stage or film cast to play a Nazi then you are doing your job. If you don a SS pin and a swastika armband you are a fascist and actively advertising yourself as a threat to those around you (unless they look like you). This is “hate speech” which means that it is “free speech” and thus should be protected from government interference. It, on the other hand, can also fall under “fighting words” which are not protected. It all depends on context. In the context of a fascist wannabe dictator taking office who is openly promoting violence against minorities and showing blatant support of white supremacist groups like proud boys and KKK, it falls under the latter. It is also speech that removes ones self from the social contracts of “tolerance”, “compassion”, and “safety”. Just like any contract, the privileges and protections are only afforded to those who are a party to the contract. If someone goes out in a Nazi ‘cosplay’ and gets gunned down, beaten, savaged, spat on, or verbally assaulted they have no room to complain since they wore “speech” that said “I support or intend to do harm to those in my community and I am a threat.”
youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
When someone intends to enslave or kill you, your family, or your friends. If they try to strip you of your rights and otherwise destroy your society and way of life, then killing them is not murder. It’s self defense.
catloaf@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Yes, though self-defense may be justifiable.
timewarp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Def sounds like they are suggesting murder.
YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Reread the comment you responded to. Doesn’t mention anything about that. “Murder” is arguable anyways, not every killing is a murder.
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I just have this feeling that someday soon we’re going to look back at this time and wish we’d stood up and acted while we could. I’m not advocating murder - but we’re voting in elections and having endless online discussions while the world is circling the drain.
timewarp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Federal judges have a lot of power & are near impossible to remove. Democrats could literally tie Trump up in courts for the next 4 years.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 months ago
^ This comment is fucking delusional
crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Hopefully they don’t wait over 2 years to get started this time, if that’s the strategy.
comfy@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
People who self-identify as Nazis, as well as those knowingly in neo-Nazi organizations, are therefore perfectly valid targets of assassination. Historically, such people are seen as national heroes, so don’t give me that ‘winning people over to your side of history’ junk.
When it is strategically effective to shoot a Nazi, and it often is, then I advocate you do so without hesitation. Where it is not strategically effective, I advocate the myriad of nonviolent techniques put in use by antifascists. These are preferred, not because of some silly claims that Nazis should not be harmed, but because they’re safer and more sustainable than individual actions.
Listen closely to what a Nazi wants, yes even the ‘cosplay Nazis’, and think about whether their life is more important than stopping their goal of mass extermination.
not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Sounds like sympathy for Nazis. They want violence, we the people have the responsibility to send them back to hide in the shadows.
We are here because we stayed quiet for too long.
UniversalMonk@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Blow it out your ass
timewarp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I agree everyone should shit on the authoritarian Dems against free speech.