Comment on Anon cheats through college
boletus@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Why would you sign up to college to willfully learn nothing
A lot of kids fresh out of highschool are pressured into going to college right away. Its the societal norm for some fucking reason.
Give these kids a break and let them go when they’re really ready. Personally I sat around for a year and a half before I felt like “fuck, this is boring lets go learn something now”. If i had gone to college straight from highschool I would’ve flunked out and just wasted all that money for nothing.
Yeah I remember in high school they were pressuring every body to go straight to uni and I personally thought it was kinda predatory.
I wish I hadn’t went straight in, personally. Wasted a lot of money and time before I got my shit together and went back for an associates a few years later.
Its hard to make wise decisions when you’re basically a kid at that age.
To get hired.
A diploma ain’t gonna give you shit on its own
So does breathing.
To get the peice of paper that lets you access a living wage
To get a job so you don’t starve
Because college is awesome and many employers use a degree as a simple filter any way
Not a single person I’ve worked with in software has gotten a job with just a diploma since like the early 2000s
Maybe it’s different in some places.
Many HR departments will automatically kick out an application if it doesn’t have a degree. It’s an easy filter even if it isn’t the most accurate.
Yeah fair point, but then how are you going to get the job if you’re completely incompetent at programming 🤔
“Necessary, but not sufficient” sums up the role of a degree for a lot of jobs.
We are saying the same thing. Degree > diploma for jobs. Go to college, get degree
I meant any form of qualification. Sure it helps, but the way you get the job is by showing you can actually do the work. Like a folio and personal projects or past history.
If you go through years of education, learn nothing, and all you get is a piece of paper, then you’ve just wasted thousands of hours and tens of thousands of dollars on a worthless document. You can go down to FedEx and print yourself a diploma on nice paper for a couple of bucks.
If you don’t actually learn anything at college, you’re quite literally robbing yourself.
Gutek8134@lemmy.world 3 days ago
My Java classes at uni:
When I say it did nothing, it had literally empty function bodies.
boletus@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
Yeah that’s object oriented programming and interfaces. It’s a shit to teach people without a practical example but it’s a completely passable way to do OOP in industry, you start by writing interfaces to structure your program and fill in the implementation later.
Now, is it a good practice? Probably not, imo software design is impossible to get right without iteration, but people still use this method… good to understand why it sucks
e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
So what? You also learn math with exercises that ‘do nothing’. If it bothers you so much add some print statements to the function bodies.
Gutek8134@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I actually did do that. My point was to present a situation where you basically do nothing in higher education, which is not to say you don’t do/learn anything at all.
ICastFist@programming.dev 3 days ago
Mine were actually useful, gotta respect my uni for that. The only bits we didn’t manually program ourselves were the driver and the tomcat server, near the end of the semester we were writing our own Reflections to properly guess the object type from a database query.