Comment on I'm OOTL: Why is TikTok being banned?

november@lemmy.vg ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s not about the data harvesting, please stop repeating this falsehood.

  It’s about how China is controlling the algorithm for polical goals. From pushing its claim over Taiwan to interfering with global elections by showing(or hiding) speicifc content to sway peoples choices.

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  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So what is considered perfectly fine for Facebook and Twitter to do, got it

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    • jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      What if I think Facebook and Twitter should be shit canned too?

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      • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They all suck, yeah. I think banning individual social media services is not the solution. The solution is to create meaningful laws that hold any company, Chinese or American, accountable for data privacy and misinformation/influence violations.

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      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Are you the US government cherry picking privacy concerns to eliminate competitors?

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It’s like having siblings. It’s okay if I call them buttheads, but you’re not allowed to because you’re not family.

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  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean, that’s exactly what Facebook and YouTube and Twitter do as well just over different things like radicalizing people towards Maga and whatnot.

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    • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Facebook and You tube haven’t been pushing Maga content, they’re just allowing it to exist. The feed itself isn’t set to give it to everyone or hide left-wing content for a default user.

      Twitter is a different story, and should probably also get banned at this point. Elon is absolutely using it to push his own rhetoric.

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  • lurch@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s also about the data access by the chinese gov, as you can read here: www.nytimes.com/article/tiktok-ban.html

    (not the harvesting, but the access to the harvested data.)

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• Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Seems like the most honest answer so far. The U.S. doesn’t trust the CCP with its citizens’ data. No surprise there.

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  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Please read my reply to the comment, it’s not about data ownership, it’s about weaponizing algorithms.

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Just like meta and shitter are doing.

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      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Companies weaponizing algorithms for profit is different than governments weaponizing algorithms for all sorts of far worse reasons.

        If you can’t see that, you’re a bloody idiot.

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Except FB and Twitter sell their data to the highest bidder. If China wanted American’s data, they can just buy it.

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    • Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Good point. Seems like another issue of concern. As usual, the issue seems to be data privacy laws overall.

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      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It is, but the relevance to the discussion is that China getting american’s data isn’t the reason for the ban. Nor is China influencing Americans because they tend to derank politically spicy videos. If China was controlling the algo to make the US look bad, videos tagged BLM wouldn’t have been deranked.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Hard to believe this post is in good faith. This ban has been discussed at least for like 4 years now

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