Comment on Religion

• Blum0108@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So religions stall from prior religions, it’s all about who makes up the best story. The best religious memes survive and spread.

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  • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    An all-loving god sentencing sinners to eternal damnation is bad writing. Plus it ethically justifies ANY atrocity if the atrocity is done in service of converting ONE sinner. One person going to hell is worse than a million holocausts. A Christian who believes in hell can justify doing anything to “save souls”. Conversion therapy, witch burnings, crusades… If it keeps one person out of hell, it was worth it. That’s not a good mindset.

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    • Blum0108@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s about conversion, control, and propagation of religious ideas. It isn’t about making the nicest fairytale.

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    • WammKD@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As a Catholic, it’s slightly grating for most criticisms regarding Christianity to just be reactions to the most obnoxious Protestants.

      (for reference,

      • not being a Christian isn’t a sin
      • while it is required to believe a Hell exists, there is no requirement to believe anyone is there
        • we don’t ever purport to know whether anyone is there or not
        • …tumblr.com/…/deb1ae7d735c691b97d3766207fcd10da8e…
      • free choice/will is paramount
        • we break sins into veneal and mortal
          • mortal sins are the ones that send you to Hell
        • you cannot commit a mortal sin without full knowledge that what you’re doing is wrong and choosing so anyway
        • we may not necessary be clear on the hows/whys/details but it follows that anyone in Hell is there because of deliberate choice on their part
        • again, not believing isn’t a sin
        • see previous point about the possibility no one is there

      Not to say that Catholicism doesn’t have things it can be criticized for (Lord knows) but I know the type of Christians your taking about and it’s just so far and beyond removed from our actual theology)

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      • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        it’s slightly grating for most criticisms regarding Christianity to just be reactions to the most obnoxious Protestants

        I mean, the first thing I think of when I think “Christians” is “paedophile priests like Cardinal Pell” whom the Pope himself protected.

        But yeah, after that one thing, most of the criticisms I have of Christianity fall more heavily on Protestants than Catholics. It’s just…that one thing is pretty damn fucking huge.

        again, not believing isn’t a sin

        I must admit, I find this genuinely fascinating. I had thought it was pretty standard Christian doctrine that belief in Christ is a prerequisite for getting in to heaven. Is that not the case? And, assuming it isn’t official doctrine, do you think most Catholics are aware of the official doctrine, or would they believe, as I did, that belief in Christ is necessary?

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      • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Is emitting carbon a mortal sin? Helping end all life on earth seems like some major grade heresy to drag, and a sixth commandment violation. If you know climate change is real and caused by humans, is driving a car a mortal sin?

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  • vzq@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is so true! There was a true Cambrian explosion of holy men and mystics in the first century in the eastern Roman Empire. Christianity was the one that out-competed them all. The best brain worm. The two thousand year meme.

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• hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That the Greeks stole from Egyptians and Phoenicians.

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  • TseseJuer@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    who stole from “atlantians”

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    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s spelled Assyrians

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• TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hey they impressed the west early. No hope or chance when we’re trying to aspire to Olympus

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