IMHO the full title should read, “Hertz replaces shoddily built and extensive-to-fix cars, which just happen to be EVs, with more reliable models, which happen to be ICE cars.”
That, and there was something about charging infrastructure.
Hertz 180: Rental giant to sell 20,000 EVs and replace them with gas-powered vehicles
Submitted 9 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@beehaw.org
https://www.techspot.com/news/101491-hertz-180-rental-giant-sell-20000-evs-replace.html
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Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org 9 months ago
Thevenin@beehaw.org 9 months ago
Exactly. Hertz vocally blames higher repair costs and long repair times for the Teslas that make up the bulk of their EV fleet. Other EV manufacturers don’t share those problems.
gaael@beehaw.org 9 months ago
Amended title: Rental giant to take a huge step back in climate change fight and generate more GHG to protect their bottom line.
yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Alternate alternate title: EVs’ cost of ownership too high compared to ICEs.
cooopsspace@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Real alternate title: EV manufacturers are trying to be like apple and misrepresenting your ability to repair your shit for profit.
BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 9 months ago
I'm not even sure it's just that. A guy i know had to wait a couple of month until he could get his tesla windshield replaced. I still don't really know where all these tesla owners around here go to service their cars, because i only know of a dealership, but that's no garage. The only people i know with a teala bring their car there and they bring it somewhere from there. And service and shit takes for ever.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 months ago
If you read the article, it’s nothing to do specifically with EVs, they just had an unusually high crash rate.
swope@kbin.social 9 months ago
I rented a Bolt EV from Hertz once. The car was fine, but the charging stations in the area were mostly broken, or they required downloading an app and giving personal information to charge.
I got the feeling the charging networks are all about collecting government incentives and the sale of private information from subscribers, and not at all about service.
My new preferred rental car is no rental car at all.
maynarkh@feddit.nl 9 months ago
charging stations in the area were mostly broken, or they required downloading an app and giving personal information to charge.
My experience with this is that some places have chargers figured out and some don’t.
I live in the NL, I rent cars from SIXT Share on occasion, and the charging network is seamless. I can just roll into anywhere and there is bound to be a charger on every street corner, and each only need the RFID tag on the car keys to start charging. BTW, I’ve never seen a Tesla charger in the country.
OTOH, I’ve been over in Hungary, and it’s a complete shitshow. My host drove us around in his Tesla, and chargers were few and far between, with Tesla ones being somewhat reliable, others worked as often as they didn’t, and they all had their shitty apps that didn’t work either.
HisNoodlyServant@beehaw.org 9 months ago
EVs are a greenwashing scam. Mass transit is the only way that is sustainable for our population.
healthetank@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
EVs make a difference for anyone in an area with low density. I live in the country relatively close to population centres, but it’s impossible for me to ever imagine transit being even near me.
We will literally always have a need for small, individual vehicles of some kind for most the population. If we could reduce that to one car, then supplement with transit, where available, or carpooling? Then also make that car an EV instead of ICE? That’s a huge emissions reduction
Thevenin@beehaw.org 9 months ago
Mass transit is the only way that is sustainable
EVs cut lifecycle emissions to about 45%. [UCS][ANL][MIT][IEA]
Public transit cuts lifecycle emissions to… about 45%. [IEA][AFDC][USDOT]
Neither is a magic bullet. Both get their asses kicked by bicyles. Both get better with increased passengers per vehicle. Both can be fueled with renewable energy for additional reduction. Both can be manufactured with renewable energy for additional reduction. Both take surprisingly equivalent amounts of steel, aluminum, and glass.
Public transit offers unique advantages from an urbanist perspective and the liveability of cities, but that’s objectively different from sustainability.
Vodulas@beehaw.org 9 months ago
They are not a scam in general, though one could easily say that about Tesla. The reality is we need both EVs and mass transit. The mass transit infrastructure we need will take time, and EVs are a good stopgap. You are not going to have a good bus or train infrastructure tomorrow, but if you’re car shits the bed tomorrow you can get an EV. Plus there are always going to be a need for some people to have cars, and going electric is better even after manufacturing factors are taken into account. Think fleet vehicles and people that require a lot of tools and supplies for their job.
maynarkh@feddit.nl 9 months ago
The mass transit infrastructure we need will take time, and EVs are a good stopgap.
I’d say yeah, walk and chew gum at the same time. On the other hand though, have they already closed off a lane and started on laying tram tracks where you live? Did the government pass resolutions to start procuring buses?
I have the feeling that these days with today’s media and everyone focusing on “owning the moment”, something like better public transit is either happening right now, or will never happen until those in power get replaced.
nullPointer@programming.dev 9 months ago
they are just too expensive to maintain… would you like to rent a BMW?
AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 9 months ago
What maintenance?
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 9 months ago
Sounds like a boost to the second hand market
ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 9 months ago
Global EV production is so focused on making and meeting the demand for more vehicles on the road that the after market is handled as an after thought. This is partly offset by EVs being mechanically simpler and more reliable (mechanically) but that is little comfort when you do have an issue that needs parts to fix. And for Hertz it hurts when a car is out of commission for an extended period, so this is a very reasonable action in my opinion.
swope@kbin.social 9 months ago
An EV engineer friend of mine said that this is specifically the Hertz Teslas because Tesla parts are expensive and sometimes hard to get. So when a Tesla breaks, they sell it rather than repair it.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Yeah a company called Hertz pushing DC powered cars is absurd
BurningRiver@beehaw.org 9 months ago
Seriously, watt are they even doing?
swope@kbin.social 9 months ago
Ohm my god, right‽
MagicShel@programming.dev 9 months ago
Ohm my god. I see what you did there.