Chicago schools should realy contact Kagi. They announced they would be willing to work with schools that wanted out of Google’s AI experience for their students.
Chicago schools tell Google they'd rather lose Search than be forced to accept AI
Submitted 1 day ago by remington@beehaw.org to technology@beehaw.org
https://www.techspot.com/news/114532-chicago-schools-tell-google-they-can-live-without.html
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Steve@communick.news 1 day ago
XLE@piefed.social 21 hours ago
Maybe Kagi could first walk back their AI-first manifesto…
…Or schools could use literally anything else that doesn’t cost an extra subscription…
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 hours ago
Why are you linking the DDoS website?
Some people can’t even open that and it’s the worst archive site to be using. They change websites so you can never know if what you see is what they really archived.
TheKaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
This article is about 7 years old, before AI was even used as widely as it is now, and it’s referencing their optional AI tool. This doesn’t strike me as “AI-First” but more like “we’re trying to make our AI search assistant more reliable than the rest”.
I get the AI hate and the “paid search” Kagi hate, but saying they’re an AI-First company doesn’t seem right to me. You don’t even get AI results unless you add a question mark to your search. Additionally, you can report websites and images for being slop. Can’t do that with any other search engine.
Steve@communick.news 21 hours ago
Schools shouldn’t ever use tools that interrupt a lesson with an ad.
And we don’t how much (if anything) it costs the school. It certainly doesn’t coat the student a subscription if that’s what you mean.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 hours ago
I started using them 2 weeks ago. Previously I was using DDG, occasionally when searching and didn’t get an answer I added “!g” to query which redirected me to Google, but I don’t think on those scenarios Google ever have better results.
With Kagi I do far did not have need to go to Google or DDG at all.
I’m also like that I’m in charge. For example I wanted to avoid buying from Amazon. Unfortunately it is not enough to not use their site, because they also show up on top of search results. I can select their service and deprioritize them so now I see other stores when searching for a product.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 hours ago
It was Ed Zitron not Cory Doctorow. But yes, search was not bringing in enough revenue so they optimized for ads seen (having to search more than once)
ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org 17 hours ago
I’m not really a fan of Kagi myself. I gave it a try a while back. The issue is that with a limited number of searches I get worse results, because I’m less willing to refine my queries.
With query refinement I can get excellent results on Google. So ultimately Google is better for me than Kagi.
logana@lemmychan.org 22 hours ago
Fuck off, shill.
Steve@communick.news 22 hours ago
Sure thing. Here I go. Fucking off…
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 23 hours ago
Spine? Testicular fortitude? Integrity? I like it.
robert@piefed.ca 23 hours ago
There is no need to use Google products of any kind in a classroom setting. It doesn’t help kids learn.
nocturne@piefed.social 22 hours ago
The only way to get my university emails is through Gmail. It is so pointless.
dusk@piefed.social 15 hours ago
Sounds like your university is corrupt?
Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 21 hours ago
So many other options, Google can shut down and some will notice but most will just move on.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
Many of the other options use Google search under the hood.
Ooops@feddit.org 1 day ago
“Oh no! I can’t use the Google search anymore!! How will I survive this???”
just opens one of the dozens of alternatives, one of the dozen of meta search engines using Google results, too, or even just putting up their own meta search
supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Google is bluffing hard here, at the end of the day they won’t give the opportunity to anyone else.