Years ago I bought a canoe, the ropes had several of these knots. I have never been able to replicate them (granted I have not tried a lot either).
Some other angles:
Submitted 13 hours ago by nocturne@slrpnk.net to [deleted]
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Years ago I bought a canoe, the ropes had several of these knots. I have never been able to replicate them (granted I have not tried a lot either).
Some other angles:
Possibly the buntline hitch? Wiki link, animated knots link.
Yep I’ll second this, if you follow the rope it makes a clove hitch on the loose ends, which matches this knot
The images in the wiki look a lot like OP’s photos, and given the description they gave of how they used them, that is consistent with a Buntline hitch as well.
This is correct, that’s a buntline hitch.
I think it’s a standard figure 8 but with one side pulled through into a slipknot.
Not sure if that has a specific knot name. Knowing sailors, it’s probably something that sounds like a drunken slur.
That was my first thought as well. Probably called a “slipped” or “slippery” figure-8.
Is that an alpine butterfly? I know of at least 3 ways to tie it. It’s an excellent knot for making a loop. It won’t capsize under load, doesn’t damage the line it’s tied in and can always be untied no matter how much load it was under.
“Steve” and “very carefully”, respectively.
It’s not a bowline, the knot in the image slips and will pull through if you pull one end, a bowline is fixed
Do they serve a function?
There were already in the line when I got the canoe, the seller helped me load it onto my suv. We used the loops to tie a trucker’s hitch to secure the canoe.
What function they served prior to my purchase is unknown. There were two ropes, one tied to each the bow deck and the stern deck. They were tied at the center of the rope with equal lengths on either side of the loop on the deck. Then near the end of each end of the rope was one of these knots.
What is it supposed to do? It seems like come loose if you pull from one end and tight from another?
Unsure of its original purpose, but when I purchased the canoe, the seller belied me load it and we used trucker’s hitches going through the loops of these knots. From what I remember the loop did not slip when pulled, but if you pulled the tail the whole knot came undone.
It does look like a hitch of some sort. If you are trying to achieve a loop that does not pull tight, I always used a bowline knot.
Does a figure 8 on a bight not do the same?
It does, but the bowline is easier to untie after an extreme load. But then the bowline is not safe on it’s own, it needs to be backed up with another knot. An overhand on a bite also serves the same function but I think that’s even harder to untie after loading especially with skinny material. Not sure about that though, I’ve just heard of people not being able to untie them in their anchors for rock climbing.
I am not an expert by any standards, that is just one I remember from scouts. I had to look up figure 8 on bight, and that looks like a really useful knot, especially because you can do in the middle of rope, without the end. I looked up why anyone would do a bowline then, but i guess it’s a little easier to undo when you’re done with the knot, so it’s useful in certain rescue situations, otherwise the figure 8 is considered stronger. Do you have experience with either?
How long is the end you are holding?
This was taken back in 2017, one end goes to the canoe, the other end was not terribly long. I will see if there is still one knot tied, which there may be as we do not have much water in New Mexico any longer and taking the canoe out to a dry riverbed is not much fun.
It looks like you could make a loop and twist it, and then pass the loop end through the twist somehow to recreate this knot instead of threading the end through
Perhaps a variant on the trucker’s hitch? (Assuming that this was used to tie the canoe to the roof of a car.)
For anyone struggling with tying a truckers hitch knot, please see this instructional video
waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Kind of looks like a mooring hitch, but backwards. It won’t actually do anything that loop will pull immediately.
nocturne@slrpnk.net 10 hours ago
When I loaded the canoe onto my suv the seller and I used the loop in the knot to tie a trucker’s hitch to secure the canoe to my roof.
chocrates@piefed.world 12 hours ago
Depends on which end you pull, it looks like