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Submitted 11 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 11 months ago
STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Sure do king…I’ll leave your bathroom now.
redballooon@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Circlejerk rather than shitpost.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 11 months ago
True facts.
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
It is interesting how split opinions are here. Young democrats are more pro Palestine, older Dems are more pro Israel (although a little harsh). Republicans think Israel is doing the right thing.
Prunebutt@feddit.de 11 months ago
You really need to understand that there is a waaay bigger political spectrum than “Democrats” and “Republicans”. Especially when it comes to foreign policy.
balderdash9@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Random condescension on Lemmy, what else is new.
I was basing my statement on an NPR poll and those were the categories that they used.
RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Young democrats are more pro-dont-commit-war-crimes, older dems are disensitized by war-crimes and obsessed with anti-terrorism.
Republicans love the war machine and think that genocide/wiping out the opposing side is the only way to resolve anything.
samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Issue is many young people don’t realize it’s mostly Hamas ruining people’s lives and many older ones cannot admit mistakes made by Israel.
Or people are just completely on one side (which is imho impossible). Either they support Israel or they support Palestine and want Israel out. You know how few balanced opinions I have seen?
Ghost33313@kbin.social 11 months ago
Exactly, and the few being balanced part is what drives us crazy. My wife is Jewish and has family in Israel. While we hate Hamas we dislike the orthodox Jews almost as much. Even with everything going on we care for the Palestinians that are mixed up with this and acknowledge both sides are truly bad in this. The enemy is Hamas not Palestine. Israel the nation isn't the problem, it's Netanyahu and company. None of that matters however as she has been spit on and treated like shit ever since this started just for her ethnicity.
There is so much information warfare going on and I am sure of it. As soon as that first hospital blew up, media immediately blamed the IDF before any evidence was out. Then all evidence pointed to Hamas being responsible and it barely got covered. Hamas is using hospitals as hiding spots at the very least. Meanwhile they do their best to heard and trap civilians into the crossfire while the IDF steamrolls. The whole situation is just fucked.
It is just so aggravating how everyone treats this as a black and white struggle like Ukraine when it is anything but. It's two shitheads fighting; with Israel at least having dissenters while Palestine is run like a dictatorship. That's the only simple part.
pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Not American, but there is a shift lately that makes me feel a little hopeful. Like for the first time my parents and in-laws are starting to see how not all criticism of Israel has to be antisemitic.
Yes that does mean we’re having to be more vigilant for actual antisemitism (especially online), but it’s still progress of a sort.
blazera@kbin.social 11 months ago
Israel is right leaning
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Leaning?
phoneymouse@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Not leaning; they’ve fallen over
samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 11 months ago
Yes, leaning. Basically the current government is supporting right wing orientation which can be quite extreme.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In the same way that tower in Pisa would be leaning if not for the cranes holding it up.
It’s a fascist apartheid ethnostate ffs!
MuuuaadDib@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The hubris and the gall of those crazy leftists, they don’t want dead babies what monsters!
CommanderM2192@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Then surely they condemn Hamas, support their removal from the face of this planet, and call on their elected representatives to put boots on the ground in Gaza to do so with minimal loss of innocent life? Surely they do those things. Surely you do those things, right?
primal_buddhist@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We can condemn Hamas and Israel in the same breath. We don’t have to support Israel as the agency to “remove” Hamas.
MuuuaadDib@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Oh sure one sec…let’s see…bomb a refugee camp, a hospital, and ambulances and kill kids and others who did nothing or…take a surgical attack on the people who attacked you? Tough decisions…hmmm…going to go with attack the actual people who attacked you.
S_204@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m struggling to find anything that would lead to a down vote here.
Whether or not you believe Israel even has a right to exist aside, any reasonable actor would obviously want what you’ve outlined above…
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I’ll condemn Hamas, but you’re fucking nuts if you want anyone with a soul to support sending the marines
redballooon@lemm.ee 11 months ago
To the leftist who is stunned by this message:
Think of Jordan Peterson. There was a time where he was riled up against “ideologies who would kill people in the name of a higher good.” And he named examples, Stalin and Mao most prominently. For all the abstract criticisms of ideologies, he rarely distances himself from Fascism, named Hitler only very occasionally as an example.
Now he is forethinker for the Republican Fascist party which is now normalizing the exact dehumanizing language that the Nazis used to prepared and justify their concentration camps.
Antifascists caught his thought patterns early on and warned of him using fascist arguments much more sensitive than most people, the missing distancing from Hitler along his other prominent examples being one of them.
Now, dear leftists, the mirror of this arguments wants to ask you if you are really only motivated by reducing human suffering and wanting peace. And if so, you cannot ignore the role of Hamas in this longtime ongoing conflict nor in this war. If you skip that, if that’s not in your mirror, it’s big time necessary to go outside your bubble. Because then chances are you are a puppet playing the propaganda trumpet for the Hamas, or otherwise playing in their hands.
HelixDab2@lemm.ee 11 months ago
And if so, you cannot ignore the role of Hamas in this longtime ongoing conflict nor in this war.
Israel created Hamas, because they wanted to destabilize the PLO and Fatah. They continue to recruit more people for Hamas by killing fathers, wives, and children indiscriminately. Israel’s only path forward is genocide–either literal, or through the absolute destruction of Palestinian identity–much like we did in the US to the Native Americans.
redballooon@lemm.ee 11 months ago
That is at best a totally skewed version. Yea we know Netanyahu for a few years let the Hamas grow, and we have records of him with vaguely the reasoning you have there.
But to make Israel entirely responsible for the existence, what the Hamas does and wants, demands a world view of an all powerful Jewish government that plans and executes for immense time frames. Don’t we have that though pattern in widely spread antisemitic conspiracy theories?
filister@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Every sane person just reading the news of what is happening in Gaza and the West Bank can make their own conclusions. If you really value human life no matter the religion, ethnicity or skin colour you can see a clear pattern.
redballooon@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Really? What we have in the news these days is published by the conflict parties, independent verification is almost never possible.
Guydht@lemmy.world 11 months ago
“I used the chad meme so I’m correct”
rk96@lemmy.one 11 months ago
You know, when neo-nazis align themselves with anti israel leftists, I would say that’s not good, but apparently western “communists” kniw better then anyone, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, enjoy being on the same side with neo nazis, must feel great isnt it?
rambaroo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
So? Israel is on the same side as white supremacists and far right Christian extremists. Your logical faculties are garbage.
rk96@lemmy.one 11 months ago
And communists in america align themselves with sunni salafi jihadists, your point is?
You wrote a bunch of BS and buzzwords just tick off your “I mascaraded my jew hatered behind israel criticism”
Sharmoota
spacesweedkid27@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I still hate you striker, but based meme.
guriinii@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Yeah, you anti-genocidal fucks.
thorbot@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How dare you support not killing people en masse? Monsters