Georgia homeowners are being forced from their homes to help power AI data centers: "It's theft"

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• TheGoldenV@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They didn’t steal the land and this girl didn’t own it. The mother (property owner) was given an offer she accepted.

  They didn’t even use eminent domain. Now marinate on that.

  Plus this is Georgia, who do these people vote for? Local elections matter.

  Data centers are a cancer and should be banned. That being said there is no crime here and not even an abuse of power.

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  • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is a gross oversimplification.

    The mother (property owner) was given an offer she accepted. They didn’t even use eminent domain. Now marinate on that.

    That’s like saying the schoolyard bully didn’t steal your lunch money - you just gave it up willingly after they threatened to beat you up. Jeez, they didn’t even beat you up! Where’s the crime?

    The company essentially said “Here is our offer. Take it or we will use eminent domain to get your land anyway.” Fighting this in court would take years and cost tons of money, and would likely still result in losing their home.

    Plus this is Georgia, who do these people vote for? Local elections matter.

    Georgia is quite evenly split politically.

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    • TheGoldenV@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This is a gross oversimplification.

      No it’s not. Feel free to familiarize yourself with Right of Way and municipal acquisition.

      That’s like saying the schoolyard bully didn’t steal your lunch money - you just gave it up willingly after they threatened to beat you up. Jeez, they didn’t even beat you up! Where’s the crime?

      Again no. They were going to take those houses regardless. Your issue is due to a lack of understanding. In the bully analogy the bully is breaking the law. The municipality is following the law in this case. Which is more than I can say for most of the federal government.

      You may not like it, but that’s what it is.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That is ignoring the “sell now for this tmshit amount or next time we’ll take it for even less”

    Its easy yo force a small person to sell if you’re a big company

    Then having that spokes person go all teary eyed is just maddening

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    • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      To fake tears and then lie.

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  • bloogoose@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Buddy thinks “legal” and “right” are there same thing.

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  • chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Data centers are a cancer and should be banned.

    Do you believe this or not?

    This is a puff piece for rage bait and it fucking worked.

    This isn’t a puff piece. They’re talking to real people who are being forced out of their homes by data centers. It’s a worthy news story for that community.

    If you believe the first statement, then you should see the value in this propaganda against data centers.

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  • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sources please

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    • TheGoldenV@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      About the middle of the video above, sorry I can’t see the time on mobile.

      The reporter states that the mother came to an agreement with the municipality and did not go to eminent domain. Then they immediately go on to explain (albeit briefly) what eminent domain is and what the process entails.

      An additional source is that I’ve lived through this myself.

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• scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ugh okay I’ll say I’m torn. Put AI aside for just a second, pur grid and transmission lines are HORRIBLY in need of upgrading. Ask any Republican pre AI and they would have parrotted the same thing about EVs being too much for our grid.

  So, I’m not happy that it’s because of AI and datacenters. I do see we need to upgrade, and I have been also someone who is actually okay with eminent domain IF and only if the owners get full MARKET value (and I would throw on moving expenses). Of course we know things can be abused but ina just society I would say that if it means a few families moving for a more robust power grid, then I’m okay with it, even if it had to be me.

  That being said I feel that I have a nuanced take here and I fully expect to be downvoted to hell.

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  • Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Honestly if AI data centres are the reason your electric grid gets upgraded it’s probably worth it. AI bubble will pop and data centres will get closed down but your grid will still be upgraded.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨9⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Personally that’s my POV. We need it anyway, regardless of AI.

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  • CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Eminent domain was never meant to be for the economic profit of an individual, it was meant for the common good of the community - this is just fucking bullshit

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    • kibblebits@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Eminent domain wasn’t used though. They just bought the land. The article is sensational.

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  • brian@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    market value and moving expenses seems like a no brainer, but it doesn’t go nearly far enough. the value that is created from these properties being requisitioned isn’t really addressed.

    a company deciding they want it at market value, would intrinsically increase the market value pretty significantly. and it’s hard to put numbers to it, but if someone were to knock on my door, completely unprompted, I think I would have a hard time packing up and leaving for less than 1.5x market value (plus expenses).

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  • ThisGuyThat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I can’t see increasing capacity for AI data centers as “just cause”. Silver lining is if that AI collapses; their will be extra capacity to meet EV demands right?.. Right? I’d want at least double if it was a child hood home.

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  • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I agree with others that they should get at least 1.5x market value. There is an emotional damage to taking someones belongings that should be accounted for. And also, supposing they use the funds to buy a new home, they will need to get a mortgage still, which now have significantly higher interest rates, increasing their monthly payments.

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• 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  TL;DR she actually agreed to sell and is now bitching and whining on Tiktok that they are “taking” it and using her kids as sob material.

  Bruh. That title and framing is disingenuous. I don’t care it’s “driven” by datacenters. The power grid would need to be upgraded at some point anyway.

  There’s no “theft” to call out if YOU’RE GETTING PAID, IN A DEAL.

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  • ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And what if they didn’t sell? The datacenter is just gonna respect that decision?

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    • 87Six@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No but in my book you can’t agree to the first presented deal, then complain online about theft. It’s not theft. It’s a deal, datacenter involved or not.

      She laid down and surrendered without a fight and now regrets it so she took to tiktok to farm fame off the dataventer bad trope. They are bad, but in this case, they made a deal, they didn’t steal anything.

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  • unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Other poster said that too but where are the sources

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    • TheGoldenV@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I was being genuine in my other response to you, but this comment makes me wonder if you watched the vid or just came to comment.

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