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• mech@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Without a license, a company can take your code, compile it into a program, publish that under a different name, slap their own proprietary license on it which prohibits free use, and then sue you, the developer, for copyright infringement.

  Applying a license such as GPL to your open source code makes that legally impossible.

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  • Sibbo@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No. All rights reserved is default. And as copyright is mostly harmonised around the world, I doubt there is any country where that is not the case.

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  • slazer2au@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not sure what corporate hellscape you live in but that is not how it works at all.

    If you left it as a public git repo you just have to point to the commits in your repo as existing before their product and the case falls flat.

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• sbeak@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They are needed to tell users and developers what they can do with the project and whether they can change the source code, redistribute it, etc. Having no license by default means others can’t look at your code or modify it in any way, as the terms on how to do so are not defined!

  There are several licenses that are used for open-source projects. Generally, they are grouped as either permissive licenses (like MIT) or copyleft/protective licenses (like GPLv3). In a nutshell, permissive licenses gives the developer (or, in the case of commercial use of open-source code, the company) more freedom as the code can be used in any kind of project, including proprietary ones. In contrast, copyleft licenses aim to give users more freedom by ensuring that the code can only be used in projects that also use an open-source license.

  There are other elements to licenses too, like how code used should be attributed, whether you are allowed to fork the project, additional copyleft restrictions for SaaS applications (see AGPLv3), loosening of copyleft restrictions (see LGPLv3), etc.

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  • sbeak@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    There’s a pretty big debate on permissive vs copyleft licenses. The advocates for the former believe that fewer restrictions on how you can use software is better, while those on the side of the latter believe that use of open-source code by proprietary software is harmful to the open-source movement.

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    • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Liberals vs leftists

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• anon_8675309@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Because corporations would use the code to make a commercial product and then try to kill off the open source by sending out their lawyers.

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• NewDawnOwl@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Just to add a concrete example/plug:

  I made the microtonal music grid : github.com/MicrotonalGrid/MicrotonalGrid
  It’s source code is open, you can see it here : github.com/MicrotonalGrid/MicrotonalGrid

  If you want to, you can modify it yourself and add in things like different colours, default music systems, or even ratio mode instead of even temperment. I’m perfectly happy with that. You can even use it to teach yourself or other people how to program in javascript , or how to program a very basic synth. You can even use just the part that has an implementation of conway’s game of life.

  I don’t consent to you making money off it. If anyone is going to make the pittance that this code would make, I want it to be me.

  That’s why I chose the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International licence.

  creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/

  I want credit, and I don’t want you to make money off it.

  So you use a license to specify how you want people to treat you and your code, and threaten legal action if that desire is abused.

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  • MastKalandar@feddit.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Thank you for the clarification. So you basically work with music on your computer ??

    Suppose l make a DJ software/machine using your code, and then make it a tool to make some money, would you still sue me in a court ??

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    • NewDawnOwl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I am so awesome at self promotion that I put the source code twice, and the actual usable version 0 times. Here’s the link : newdawnowl.itch.io/microtonal-grid

      I have to actually see you use it in your DJ software/machine. Let’s say you have a mechanism in your DJ software that seems to somehow have a 16 * 16 grid, conway’s game of life and an interface that’s very similar. I can start pursuing legal action if I believe you’re making gains off it. The more money someone makes off it, the more likely it becomes, since courts aren’t free, international laws, etc etc.

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• BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Open source isn’t always the same as free to use. It means the code is open for review for anyone - but it’s still covered by copyright. License describes what you can use that code for.

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• Th4tGuyII@fedia.io ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  As others have said, a license is a legal tool that allows you to enforce how you want your program to be used.

  And in the case of FOSS this is a really big issue, because just publishing code doesn't put it into the public domain, and leaves you open to exploitation by big companies.

  There are various types of licenses, but for FOSS the main ones are unlicensing and Copyleft licenses.
  Unlicensing essentially declares your code public domain, so anybody can use it for any purpose.
  Copyleft licenses are usually fairly permissive, especially for individuals, but obligate that any offshot/fork must also be made Copyleft - so prohibits close sourcing of your work.

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• litchralee@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  License is the legal instrument which makes open source software/hardware/silicon possible, describing precisely what rights are granted or retained. The term “open source” usually means the definition propounded by the Open Source Initiative (OSI) but sometimes not in certain contexts. At the very minimum, an OSI-compliant open source license will allow any distribution of the software without having to seek additional permission from the author, must be accompanied with access to the source code, and the software does not come with provisos outright prohibiting its use for certain endeavors.

  That last point is about the “use” of the software, and is a crucial distinction between “open source” and “source available”. To have source available means the source code can be examined, but usually cannot be compiled. An open source license explicitly allows all uses, but possibly with additional obligations. For example, the AGPL license allows software to be used to run a server, but creates an obligation to provide the server source code to all users that connect. Whereas something like the MIT 0-clause license has zero additional obligations, while allowing the broadest use.

  The exact verbiage of a license are the domain of lawyers, being a legal document. But the choice of license is down to the software author or corporate owner, and is a multifaceted consideration, including marketability, compatibility with other software, and whether it’s more important that the code gets used or that it forever remains available.

  The latter is the major battleground for advocates of permissive versus copyleft licenses. Some software (eg reference cryptographic algorithms) have the priority that the absolute most number of people should use them, so a permissive license makes sense. While other software (eg desktop 3D rendering suite Blender) have a priority that nobody can ever take it private by adding proprietary-only features.

  Choosing open source is easy, but choosing a license to effect that choice can get tricky. For authors publishing their software, the choice may very well change the course of history (ie Linux GPL-2). For consumers or businesses using software, the license dictates how changes can be distributed.

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• schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The sub is called “no stupid questions”, not “completely unclear questions”. I genuinely have no idea what you want to know. 🤨

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  • sbeak@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What is the significance of licenses?

    I think that’s a pretty straightforward question. The first bit narrows it down to the context of open-source licenses. This certainly makes the question very clear with intent and purpose, and you dug yourself into a deeper hole by emphasising your invalid point with “completely”.

    Perhaps reading comprehension is not your greatest strength, if you need help on that, I would highly recommend “Biff, Chip, and Kipper” books. They are fun, highly engaging, with a range of different reading levels for all ages. I loved these books when I was a kid, so I think you would enjoy them too!

    The stories involve lots of time travel and fantasy worlds which I think a majority people will enjoy, but if you’re not interested in any kind of fun story, you have the lower reading levels that teach you basic sentence structure with everyday happenings, like going to the store with Gran.

    “The magic key began to glow…”

    p.s. the phrase “no stupid questions” refers to how teachers encourage students to ask questions by saying “Remember class, there are no stupid questions!” It does not mean that stupid questions are not allowed!

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    • sanguinepar@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Aw man, I remember my kid having the Biff Chip and Kipper books, but we never got to the end of them as far as I know. That magic key bit was a real twist in what had thusfar been a pretty reality-grounded series. I need to go look up how that story progressed.

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    • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Well, ok, if all OP wanted to know is what a copyright license is:

      By default, copyright law in most countries prohibits anyone except the author or other copyright holder from distributing creative works, including software, even in modified form. There are a few exceptions to this, but this is the general rule.

      A license is a document that the copyright holder agreed to that grants someone permission to do so anyway.

      In the context of open source, such a license needs to meet certain conditions to be considered open source. Among other things it needs to allow anyone (not just specific licensees) to distribute the software for any purpose, even in modified form.

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  • MastKalandar@feddit.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I need some space to understand deeper issues.

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