Submitted 4 days ago by Ilandar@lemmy.today to australianpolitics@aussie.zone
A quarter of all respondents say they would ‘definitely’ back the rightwing populist party at the next election while another third say they’re ‘open’ to it
I wonder how much of this is true and how much of this is massaging the polls for a narrative. The media has tried to spin every election since like 2011 as if it’s going to end up in another hung Parliament. It will be interesting to see how many people actually vote for ON when the time comes
Let’s hear from an actual expert on this topic:
“I think some of the surge in One Nation support is in response to a generic polling question. Many disenchanted voters already have high profile Independent members and candidates in their local seat. It is Independents who are a bigger threat to the Liberal Party, but complex four cornered contests increase the importance of the order candidates finish on primary votes, and affect whose preferences get distributed.”
No, One Nation are in no position to win elections.
People are that Pissed with major parties they are more than willing to vote for Pauline. Really shows how much the parties are failing to read the room.
Yeah, but can voters not find anyone else but ON?
idk, Greens? Independents? Anyone?
The question doesn’t take that into account so one would assume that in some seats there would be a viable independent that some voters (Greens, for example) would be even more open to than One Nation. An interesting point raised in the podcast was that perhaps some Greens voters see themselves as outsiders in the same way as One Nation voters do, and therefore view a party like One Nation as a more viable option than traditional centrist parties that haven’t done shit for anyone other than those on the inside.
There is always a question mark over this stuff until we get close to an actual election, though. Many people are unhappy right now and might just be trying to send a message to the major parties via polls like this. A sort of “do something or else” type response.
Nope, apparently not.
Are they though? Like organically pissed off and not doom scrolling cooker pissed off?
SA Labor are very much a populist centrist party and pretty much the natural party of government in SA and I will be shocked if they don’t win by a huge margin. Unless the Libs can bring Playford back from the dead to re-nationalise our electricity. Take my vote. Antic and the like have been pushing the Libs to the right and out of contention for years and are doing the same to the federal party.
Not sure about NSW but I get the impression Minns is a populist Labor Right centrist along the lines of Malinauskas. These guys are holding the center of the chess board. They don’t really look threatened.
The only thing controversial about Albo is his ability to avoid controversy. He won by a landslide accompanied by almost the almost complete destruction of the LNP.
And if I was pissed off why would I vote for Hanson. She has been a joke for her entire political career. What changed apart from Gina’s money?
Australians are humans and do human shit. We aren’t actually blessed or geniuses. Just kind of lucky and generally chill. Both can easily change.
Unfortunately reverse our good fortune by increasing wealth inequality and undoing the progress of working Australians pushes people to the angry camp. And the angry camp can spread like a bushfire with influencers, social media companies and old media pouring fuel on it.
It’s not that a peoples party is a bad idea. We had one once called the Australian Labor Party. Born under a tree in Queensland by and for the benefit of hard working Australians. Thanks Queensland. Now they give us Pauline and she is something else entirely. It makes me sad.
I think we should be better. But we are the same as everyone else aren’t we. Muslims, Americans, Chinese. We are all capable of doing bad shit to each other for insane reasons. It has just been our luck that unless your had the misfortune to be born indigenous most us us had it so good we thought we were above a lot of that shit or at least getting better. Hopefully One Nation will self sabotage as they do tend to attract a log of incompetent people. But I thought the same about both Trump administrations.
My gods, just vote independent.
Even if PHON yells some things that resonate with us, I just can’t trust them because of their associates.
Anyone who hangs out with the NRA, Gina and Trump will absolutely not serve my interests.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I find this immensely disappointing
Hanson is a stain on Australia, but like Drumpf is to 'Murica, she’s a symptom of how many hateful ignorant cunts there are here, not a disease in and of herself
I’m still looking forward to reading her obituary.
MisterFrog@aussie.zone 4 days ago
I think it’s more a symptom of where right wing politics has gotten us. They’re tired of the extremely tired status quo. People’s real wages are going back. People don’t see a real hope of having stable housing.
They’re just being duped into anti-immigration and “small government” (actually the same size government but privatised) being the answer.
The Labor party are centre right. Let’s be clear. And people are choosing One Nation because for some reason socialism is scary.
shirro@aussie.zone 3 days ago
What gets me is right wingers had their chance to turn out and vote for Dutton. He is a far more effective politician than Hanson and could have actually formed government instead of just stoke social division and annoy people. He had the nod from Gina and News Corp. Instead everyone seemed to vote for Labor or Teals. What am I missing?
In several states the Liberal party can barely win a seat let alone government. For a country marching to the right doesn’t it seem really odd? Our historically dominant, long governing, conservative party which drew most of the talent on that side of politics struggles. But supposedly we are going to jump right past them to our reject shop version of AfD. How does that work exactly?
Like I feel someone is fucking with us here. I haven’t see skin heads marching down the main street in rural Australia which is as conservative as it gets. No pogroms. No racist graffiti. I would expect ON to do better here than anywhere in my state and in the 2025 federal election they were level with the Greens. Some stuff has changed in a year but not that much. Most shit is basically the same. Cost of living didn’t reverse but it definately stabilized. Have there been riots and the streets burning somewhere else?
Ilandar@lemmy.today 4 days ago
Yes, it’s another reminder of the very widespread underlying racism in this country. If you give Australians a reason to target minority groups under a false premise (housing prices, cost of living, etc), many will happily take you up on it.