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- Comment on Are users who openly parrot literal Nazi talking points allowed here? 15 hours ago:
Another is shaping the norms of a community and what is acceptable.
This is incorrect. The community shapes itself. The community is lovely. We are not it’s shapers.
You’ve been here about as long as the instance has existed. In the almost three years we’ve been at this, have you ever seen us shaping discussion? Who the hell am I to dictate to everyone what the norm is, anyway? I’m just some guy on the Internet.
I was reluctant to remove a reported post on /c/worldnews the other day, despite it being in clear violation of the sidebar rules.
One neat thing about Lemmy is moderation is all transparent. The modlog is just down there on the bottom of every page. You’ll see that just about all the accounts I ban are for spam with a smattering of troll accounts. We are accountable to the users and not some secret group manipulating discussion out of sight.
- Comment on Are users who openly parrot literal Nazi talking points allowed here? 21 hours ago:
That’s good to see, but as of right now the Nazi’s explicit mask-off comment is still up, and they are still not prevented from commenting further in the future.
Which you’re clearly good with, since your screen-capped version of the comment is also still up. The purpose of moderation is to prevent people from being exposed abhorrent content, spam, unsolicited nudity, scams and other harmful content. I’m reluctant to step into discussions that are clearly between actual humans as a general rule, unless they are being abusive or derailing threads. I could also count on my fingers the number of human user accounts I’ve needed to actually ban from the site. Whatever a power-tripping mod is, I am not.
The next time you think a comment should be removed, I would recommend that you don’t go out of your way to be sure more people see it as you report it. As things stand, I see more value in this moment as a learning point. Yours is still the only report that particular comment received. The truly offensive stuff, I can be pinged by half a dozen reports within 30 minutes of the comment being posted. I also remain unconvinced that the user who made that comment would self-identify as a Nazi. Zionist, sure - though that is apparent more from other comments than this example.
- Comment on Are users who openly parrot literal Nazi talking points allowed here? 1 day ago:
I get every report about every community on the instance, even if I’m not listed on the Community. They come as notifications to my phone. It’s pretty rare for any report to take longer than an hour or so to be looked at.
- Comment on Are users who openly parrot literal Nazi talking points allowed here? 1 day ago:
Lebensraum is a relatively infamous policy, and one which neo-Nazis like the NSN explicitly invoke.
Sorry. While I readily acknowledge that I don’t hang out in those circles, nor really scrutinise their rhetoric, I have honestly never heard that phrase before. In English or German. This does paint the comment in a brighter light, and I probably would have been more inclined to remove it had I been familiar with the term.
- Comment on Are users who openly parrot literal Nazi talking points allowed here? 2 days ago:
We’re missing a bit of information here. I got your report, went to the thread to get the context.
Firstly, I saw that you had literally screen-capped the comment in question and included it in a new reply. So, removing the comment would have achieved nothing - it would have still been there.
Secondly, the comment was Zionistic in nature, which while especially unpopular in nature is not against instance rules.
Thirdly, I wasn’t aware that the comment in question was similar to something Nazis said. I don’t even know if the user who made the comment knew that. So, leaving it there and letting downvotes do their thing allowed for education as well.
Lastly, the comment was in the Australian Politics community - which is intentionally the lightest-touch moderated community because there’s a difference between political discussion where parties disagree quite vehemently and an outright echo-chamber. If you delete all the users from your politics community that you don’t agree with, what is the point of the community?To answer your question: No, we don’t allow Nazis here. It is literally one of the questions we ask on the application screen. “Nazi talking points” is not on its own a good metric of what is acceptable today. We basically have a whole community in support of Reichsnaturschutzgesetz. I don’t especially take issue with Tierschutz, either. One of the reasons the Third Reich gained actual popular support was some of their early policies were in fact in the best interest of the German people. There is still a Kindergeld today, though giving full credit to the Nazis to that one wouldn’t really be genuine. It is fair to say they supported this policy. So I guess our stance on “literal Nazi talking points” will boil down to other factors and get taken on a case-by-case basis.
Finally: If there’s a user you genuinely don’t wish to see around here any longer, you can hit the little down arrow on any of their comments and block them.
- Comment on Media personality, broadcaster, and Agro puppeteer Jamie Dunn dies aged 76 3 days ago:
A little nostalgia for you.
- Comment on Guardian Essential poll: more than half of Australians open to voting for One Nation despite Hanson’s Muslim comments 1 week ago:
Let’s hear from an actual expert on this topic:
“I think some of the surge in One Nation support is in response to a generic polling question. Many disenchanted voters already have high profile Independent members and candidates in their local seat. It is Independents who are a bigger threat to the Liberal Party, but complex four cornered contests increase the importance of the order candidates finish on primary votes, and affect whose preferences get distributed.”
No, One Nation are in no position to win elections.
- Comment on YouGov: One Nation now 2 points behind Labor on primary vote 3 weeks ago:
Sorry, I’m missing some context here. Who’s voting at the moment?
- Comment on Australia cancels visa of Jewish influencer who previously called for Islam to be banned 1 month ago:
When atheists shoot up Bondi killing 15, take hostages in the lindt cafe
theguardian.com/…/invasion-day-rally-perth-man-ch…
Incompetence/luck is the only reason this type of scenario didn’t play out in Perth yesterday.
Morons are going to Moron. They come in all shapes and sizes, all nationalities and religions (or no religion). Lumping them all together with people who aren’t morons is just silly.
- Comment on A majority of Australians support banning pro-Palestine marches 2 months ago:
I have no idea who they polled, but I have grave doubts that it was a fair sample of the population.
I’d also love to hear how the questions were phased. For example, I do think the Holocaust should be taught in schools. But the infographic words this like it should be a subject or something.
I think the Holodomor should also be taught in schools, and if it was, I must have been chatting to a mate that one moment or something. While the Holocaust had loads of attention by comparison.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Noooo!
I used my icq all the time! In 1997. - Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
This is a great idea, but keep in mind I’m likely to test it.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Go to your messages and then “All”.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Sorry, that was me. I’m working from the Molly inbox because mine is full of user reports and site-wide stuff. Keeping the user verifications in the Molly account just means we keep them separate from anything else. I’ll have another look tonight (I can’t access Reddit from work) and see if I missed something.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
I have a real 14-year-old in my house. I should see what accounts he can manage to create for himself.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Not instantly. I’ll go through all the DMs soon (I was going to go through them on the weekend but, December) and send replies. Yes, replies will come from Molly.
- Comment on There's a simple way to solve Australia's "gas crisis" ... and cut energy bills 2 months ago:
Is the rest of Australia really not aware of WA’s Domestic Gas reserve? In short: 15% of gas extracted in WA is reserved for the people of WA. As a result, our power bills are a bit under 25c/kwh + ~$1/day supply.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Ooh - I missed this update last week:
ImageThis genuinely boggles my mind. The government can make sentences like this, but they can’t make them reality. Imagine if it said that only people with red hair were allowed to access the site. What technology exists to handle that? Because it is effectively what we are facing. We can only try our best - but we can’t assure the government 100% that no user has tricked us onto the platform. And I’d still say that if I had the resources of Google to ensure compliance.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
We aren’t going to make public what people have given us in confidence. That’s simply not happening.
We might share some of the text-based responses as reference examples to inspire others, but it’s an emphatic n"o" on anything that has an above 0% chance of doxxing our people. Which will likely be all the photos.
We love you guys too much to remotely entertain that risk.
- Comment on Israel to compete at Eurovision Song Contest in 2026, prompting several nations to withdraw 2 months ago:
It’d be funny if it was only Israel competing.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
If it was Tom’s Diner, that song has a special place in digital music history. It was the test song for what became the MP3 standard.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Oh wow! That this came from a non-Queensland kid is extra surprising. Yes, this was the breakfast club. It gave us, Agro by the way. Queensland kids knew Agro years before the rest of Australia.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
We aren’t copping any abuse. Everyone understands that this isn’t coming from us and that there is no point hassling us over it.
Shutting the instance down is not on the cards. It means too much to too many people.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Nah, I don’t think that’s it. Your comment here constituted more effort than some responses we’ve received. We don’t need much.
We’re lucky in Australia in that there’s a treasure trove of pop culture from the 20th century in our minds that isn’t really on Google. Just talk about Nudge’s antics or something. No kid will know who Nudge is, but he was a household name in the 80’s. Or maybe Bobby’s death and how that affected you? Google “Bobby’s death” and you’ll get the wrong Bobby.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
I’ll have you know that I’ve had three birthdays since I created my account!
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
While we have tried to make the verification system as light-touch and unobtrusive as we can, we need to accept that this policy will cost us users. Just as we have no influence on government policy, we have no control on how people will respond to our willingness to obey the law.
I even understand it. If Canada introduced some sort of law that required me to do something I couldn’t justify, I’d likely let my lemmy.ca test account lapse. People are going to evaluate their own position from evaluating the variables in front of them. And some of them are going to come down on their Aussie.Zone account not being worth that much to them. Which is totally fine.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Crocodile Dundee came out in 1986. Hoges was huge on TV in the 70’s though - the Paul Hogan show ran for years. Fun fact: almost all of the Paul Hogan Show has been lost. It aired before VCRs were a thing and the station lost or over-wrote the original tapes.
- Comment on These platforms are currently exempt from the under-16s social media ban. But that could all change 2 months ago:
4chan isn’t exempt. They’re simply refusing to comply. Frankly, I see their perspective. If Qatar introduced some law that required us to do this, we’d ignore it (if we even knew about it). What are they going to do?
We are complying because we are 100% in Australia. We run this little project as a side gig and can’t risk our careers by becoming a potential example for other forums. You can’t do the sort of IT work we do with a criminal record.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Most of us carried around about 10 floppies in a case. I had a fancy case that held 15 floppies and expanded out like a little set of stairs.
Most files we carried around were well under 100kb. We didn’t carry photos around, digital cameras weren’t a thing and we didn’t scan photos unless they were going into a specific file or something.
If I did have to carry a file that was larger than 1.44mb, I used arj to compress it and split the archive into 1440kb volumes. Arj had better compression than zip.
- Comment on As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone 2 months ago:
Huh. I was going to make some reference to 20-year-olds playing high school kids. But Molly genuinely was sixteen.
Colour me surprised.
