At this point, should we form an alternative government of the United States as a micronation?

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• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yes, and it will need a militia to protect itself, and a Declaration of Independence. You should focus on distributing food and arms to the people and constructing a leadership apparatus for your new nation.

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• deafboy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Some say it’s useless to overthrow a government, because the first thing people do after is create another government. It’s highly unusual to skip the first step, though.

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• db2@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The FBI calls those cults, usually with cause.

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• remon@ani.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Only if you want to be raided by federal agents.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What if you form that micronation under a very very different name that DOESN’T in any way say America?

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    • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They don’t care what you call it, they’ll kill you anyway. Violence is typically the only way for any nation to get new land, and nobody is currently more equipped for violence than the US Government.

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is it on American soil? If so, the name is irrelevant.

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• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If by government you mean federated network of autonomous anarchist communities, then yes.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean a micronation like Molossia or Austenasia

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    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      See my other comment.

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• CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t fly the Cascadia flag for nothing. Cascadia now!

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• Nemo@slrpnk.net ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Is someone just discovering anarchism?

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I mean a micronation like Molossia or Austenasia. I support micronations.

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• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  No, but as a whole nation.

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• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why “alternative government”?

  This current “government” is illegitimate and we should redo the 2024 election and swear-in the rightful government of the people then remove these traitors that are illegally occupying Capitol Hill

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How are we gonna convince the government to recount all the votes in the 2024 election? Should we use force?

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    • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why would you even try to convince an illegitimate gonverment to do something?

      Like if the confederates took over DC, do you send them a nice letter?

      Its illegitimate, and people who sworn an oath to the constitution should really try to take back control and restore constitutional order. As in the way the Union dealt with the confederates. The Union held an election during the civil war, they simply just don’t count the electors from the rebel states, so we just do the same right now. Pro-constitution states should get together, hold federal elections in those states, and declare those elected officials to be the real United States government.

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think you’re asking about secession, and at what point that becomes necessary?

  Texas threatens this every decade or so. The problem is that any individual states outside of New York and California would not be able to subsist. These two states because they have massive economies and are coastal, others because they are landlocked between.

  The first order of business down this road is finding legal ways to stop the flow of money from these states to the federal government and starving them, which will invariably destroy the country as a whole.

  It’s complicated.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t mean secession - I mean like a micronation like Molossia or Austenasia, for example

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    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean both of these micronations do claim to have seceded from the nations that surround them.

      IMO micronations are a way for weirdos to LARP as world leaders and aren’t really a solution for anything.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Any state would have to secede first.

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• Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Just tell the AI to pretend he’s a benevolent ruler and do what he says.

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