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AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al⁩ to ⁨technology@beehaw.org⁩

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/ai-industry-horrified-to-face-largest-copyright-class-action-ever-certified/

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  • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I hope you realize they aren’t fighting for the rights of artists. They are fighting for their exclusive right to exploit artists.

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    • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Absolutely. There’s not a good guy on either side here.

      If AI vendors win, it’s basically this:

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      • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So, use and support open-source AI models.

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    • BadlyDrawnRhino@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You’re not wrong, but if they win against AI, all artists will benefit because of the precedent that it would set.

      What I think will actually happen if this is looking to not go in the tech bros’ favour is that they’ll settle and make a potential deal with large copyright holders for ongoing usage, and that would screw individual artists.

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      • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        For artists able to afford a lawsuit against a multimillion company.

        No. It doesn’t benefit artists.

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      • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        all artists will benefit because of the precedent that it would set.

        No, these protections exist to maintain profits of large corporations. Copyright, patents, and intellectual rights were created under the false pretense that it “protects the little person”, but these are lies told by the rich and powerful to keep themselves rich and powerful. Time and time again, we have seen how broken the patent system is, how it is impossible to not step on musical copyright, how Disney has extended copyrights to forever, and how the megacorporations have way more money than everybody else to defend those copyrights and patents. These people are not your friend, and their legal protections are not for you.

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      • Womble@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It wont do anythign of the sort. Even if you accept the premise that somehow artists are being exploited from learning from their previous works, all that will happen is the AI companies will shift out of America to a juristiction that doesnt value extracting rents from IP above all else.

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    • npdean@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Still better than blatant theft

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      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Abolish the abomination known as intellectual property
        I hope both sides straight up die as a result of this
        The end of the intellectual “property” regime
        making infinite things artificially scarce
        cannot possibly come soon enough
        What was “intellectual property” should instead be paid up front by the people who want it
        the result should be entirely unburdened of any sort of property, royalty, strings and DRM
        ready to be infinitely broadcast and available to all
        We’re still going to want stuff and we’re going to pay for it
        We’re not going to be vampirized by monstrous mice of the past
        for 80 years after the author’s death
        now I’m off to piss, in Walt Disney’s cryotank

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  • TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    As Anthropic argued, it now “faces hundreds of billions of dollars in potential damages liability at trial in four months”

    Well sure when you potentially violate almost every active copyright for multiple kinds of media, you end up potentially being liable for some wild damages. That’s the whole point.

    Whether or not the work was sufficiently transformative will be an interesting question of course, but they should have known up front that this legal battle was a risk that their business could need to face.

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  • Womble@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    For all those cheering on the copyright mafia going after Anthropic, consider that some of the groups supporting anthropic against this massive overreach of "we get to decide how you use our works" include:

    • Authors Alliance
    • the Electronic Frontier Foundation
    • American Library Association
    • Association of Research Libraries
    • Public Knowledge

    Maybe this is not such a great thing?

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    • u_tamtam@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s pretty simple: if Antropic wins, that’s the end of the US copyright law, replaced by the diktat of the tech bros (worse for artists, and for anyone else but the tech oligarchs). If Antropic loses, nothing changes and we get to fight the (comparatively tiny) copyright mafia for another day.

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      • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        if i understand us law procedures correctly it could actually strengthen copyright law by becoming a precedent

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    • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Indeed. I want AI companies to get regulated into smithereens, but not through expansion of copyright law. There would be too much collateral damage, and it wouldn’t even work.

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      • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yet so far it seems the only real solution at hand. Under the Cheeto, AI companies basically have free reign to race for who gets to make the first Skynet, nobody cares anymore as long as it’s more more more, and the goal justifies the means. Sacrifice the environment, humanity, everything, as long as shareholders get a lot of money.

        The copyright lobby, on the other hand, has been doing this shit since forever, I doubt things can get much worse on their side

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  • artyom@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Never going to happen with the current administration. Just a big Dog and Pony show.

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    • artifex@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It has to set some precedent though. Either there are valid reasons to violate copyright are there aren’t.

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      • artyom@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Does it?

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      • Powderhorn@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That presumes precedent still matters. cough Dobbs *cough

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