North Korea and South Korea isn't working. Let's try West Korea and East Korea instead.

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• ininewcrow@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’d much rather prefer an Inner Korea and an Outer Korea

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• Raiderkev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  West Korea Best Korea

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• uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  A united Korea may be one of the positive side effects of America pooping its pants and during into a has-been world power. China will have to become World Police, unless it autocrats its way into wasteland as well, but if China can set an example and take a few steps elevating liberty, it could then unseat the Kim family, and allow Korea to just be a nice high-tech industrialized nation littered with chibi animal avatars.

  Because DPRK is just a mess. There’s also the possibility that China facilitates an invasion of South Korea by North Korea, but Kim Il Sung’s grandchildren are unlikely to be as pro-Chinese culture as he was, and zombie rulers can only have so much influence.

  Or China can just annex the whole thing, which would be a dick move and expensive and result IRA like troubles (e.g. a decades long sabotage and terror campaign from an internal pro-Korea resistance.) The Daughters of Queen Min, if I were writing the story.

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    if China can set an example and take a few steps elevating liberty,

    Lol

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    • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      China has as great a chance (and as little chance) as anyone else. Kingmakers and would be emperors have to make some serious decisions as their nation grows and develops: Do they go the autocratic dictator route and withhold civil liberties, or do they extend civil liberties outward, so that satellite colonies and conquered territories are more tolerant of imperial rule? History teems with examples of both, often from the same empire in different eras.

      It’s not new, from the tolerance of other religions and customs by Xerxes I to the republic of SPQR. Heck, even France tried constitutional monarchy with the Bourbon restoration, so long as the Napoleonic code (defining civil rights and the rule of law) was preserved. Charlie X decided to stop that civil liberties nonsense and the people of France rolled out the guillotines once again.

      This is something I bring up as a difference between the Islamic State as a hypothetical to which Islamists aspire to, and the Islamic State as it is practiced in the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant; the latter clings harshly to Shariah law. Contrast the Iran during the Pahlavi era (the result of famine and revolution forming a new imperial republic) which established a code of civil rights (only US oil interests had to meddle)

      China is about to have an opportunity to become the world superpower, or an eastern adversary to Post-NATO Europe, and right now, democracy in the EU and UK are weakened by the same long-term reign of corporatist neoliberal parties (King Log) that are opposed by far-right nationalist movements which are gaining traction… or were until Trump reminded everyone of what fascist autocracy looks like.

      If China decides not to develop its humanity and civil liberties game, then those neoliberal parties will last a while longer while drifting to the right, until the nationalist take hold and they have a Big Fat War (not to be confused with WWIII or Nuclear War). But by then, the climate crisis will be extreme enough to make the future too chaotic to predict. This is why China is leading the sustainable energy race (and because Trump kisses the feet of Koch and big oil, the US is reversing course).

      This is all backed by the ethics theory of the social contract: So long as the public is comfortable they’ll adhere to the laws of the land and play by the king’s rules. Suffering breeds discontent and organized resistance.

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• Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  only north korea isn’t working (but it’s not because of the communism ofc, it’s… something completely else, okay? and it isn’t teh rEaL cOmMuNiSm™ anyways, because that would’ve definitely worked)

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  • Logical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Tbf South Korea has plenty of economic, demographic, and social problems as well. Still miles better than North, but saying that only the North doesn’t work is not really accurate.

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    • Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      of course south korea has problems as well, but I think one can objectively state that the north doesn’t work, no matter which metric you choose to measure its “success” with

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    North Korea doesn’t even claim to be communist. Are you mixing them up with China?

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    • Acinonyx@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      north korea also claims to be democratic, that doesn’t mean it’s true

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  • bss03@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    South Korea is OVER so… some problems there, too.

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• nomoretrdsssss@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  We laugh about things that makes us happy. For some it’s silly cats for some it’s raping kids or redrawing borders without any concern for the local population

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• roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  East Korea gets all the disputed islands with Japan.

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• WanderWisley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Babe wake up anew west coast vs east coast beef just dropped.

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• PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  what projection is this? Looks super distorted

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• Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Does this mean Busan gets upgraded to capital city status? I think I could get behind that.

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• Skua@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The only real way to divide Korea is into Goguryeo, Baekje, and Silla. We can call them North, West, and East Korea though

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