If we want to have any power vs. watching helplessly while people in charge fuck everything up, we should focus on democratic workplaces. Not just unions, workers should own and control the business

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• Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The biggest lie capitalism ever told was that your free cause you can chose where to work.

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  • EndRedStateSubsidies@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    But you get to pick what color your collar is!

    How many people hated the ACA for undermining their freedom to us solely who their employer allowed them to?

    How many big, strong men get their feelings hurt when ANYONE tells them not to do things (that are dangerous to themselves and/or illegal) but at the same time, is absolutely devastated when they can’t dictate how others act?

    “Your right to swing your fist ends where my face begins” used to be a thing. Now, stopping a conservative from genocide is violating their freedoms.

    It’s a circus of absurdity fueled by decades of rewarding blind selfishness and cuts to education.

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• Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Good news! The business owners have bribed their lackies in Congress to make worker owned companies illegal! Police will be arriving shortly to arrest you.

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• HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Wikipedia list of employee owned companies by country

  Top 100 US employee owned companies

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  • thegr8goldfish@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Super surprised to see Publix leading this list.

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    • HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Its sorted by number of employees if u scroll to right

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• 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Workers owning the business < people who care owning the business

  That can take the form of workers, but equally founders or just people with an interest in what the business does. Equally though hard to get a founder who doesn’t care about what the business does, but many workers genuinely just want a paycheck and to go home (myself included).

  The problem is, stock markets and the existence of easily tradable shares, options etc. actively encourage people who not only don’t care about the business, but would be willing to mess it up for short term gain.

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  • LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You’re right, private owners who care are better than private owners who don’t care.

    Worker owned and controlled companies are preferable (not just ESOPs where decisions are still not made democratically) because democracy allows for error correction. Even the most benevolent king still has a limited amount of attention, information and decision making ability.

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    • LesserAbe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Also being at a worker coop doesn’t mean you have to sit in company meetings all day. For large organizations like Mondragon workers vote for representatives in an assembly, which then appoints a general manager.

      Also also, an owner who cares is a single point of failure/leverage. If they fall on hard times personally or just want to retire, they can decide to sell the business out from under workers to a venture capital firm, or just to another business with a less benevolent owner.

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    • 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think the best option is for workers to be able to get shares in the company they work at via an optional salary sacrifice scheme (so that it reduces the tax you pay, rather than letting you buy them with your after tax income)… If you care about the business, you can get a stake in running it, if you don’t you can collect your paycheck and go home.

      The stock market shouldn’t exist however - when you leave the business you can either keep the shares, or return them to the business for “a fair price” (the amount you paid after inflation? or maybe just the current purchase price). Shares bought like this shouldn’t be able to be sold - only those owned by the founder(s) can be, with the caveat that they must be offered to workers at a reasonable price.

      That system eliminates both forcing “responsibility” on people who don’t want it, as well as removing people parasites who want to destroy the business to mall a quick profit.

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• Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

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• ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

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