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• iso@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Seems like a reasonable position? If your goal is a safe welcoming community, cutting users who do not fit that initiative makes sense. If someone is racist or insulting, regardless of if they have donated or you see an influx of people with similar ideals, it is against the goals and objectives of the instance and the community they wish to foster. So, cutting them off seams appropriate.

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• orangeNgreen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So, I’m answering this without all of the context. But I think that their statement could, potentially, make sense for some instances. I don’t think it makes sense for most/all general instances.

  But imagine, for example, an instance whose sole purpose is pornography (seems like the easiest example). All communities created on that instance show pornography and nothing else. Now imagine someone joins that instance who is completely against porn, and all they do is complain about the porn and report posts for being porn. I think that the admins would be within their right to remove/ban that user for not aligning with their instance’s purpose.

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  • dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah without context this can be a reasonable position. A small percentage of users are more trouble than they’re worth.

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• fubo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Prioritizing growth over anything else is the logic of commercial startups, weeds, and cancers.

  It is quite possible for a project to have other goals.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People who grow up in that system sometimes have a hard time understanding why you would do it differently.

    People don’t even understand why the Linux kernel was not made into a big tech company so Linus Thorvalfs could become a billionaire. Because there is nothing out there to make them think another way.

    People do things for other reasons than money, but that seems to be a mystery to some people. Turning down money and power, why??

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  • yukichigai@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or put it another way, quality over quantity.

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• Zeus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  i can understand where they’re coming from

  if your instance was called lemmy.freds.com, and your goal was to create an instance purely for people called fred to use; it would be understandable to remove people who claimed to be called fred, and then it turns out they actually aren’t

  now i don’t know what instance this is, but say it’s lemmy.dbzer0.com - if a user is going around decrying piracy, or reporting copyright infringement on lemmy to authorities; i think it would be reasonable to remove them

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  • Prettyblackroses@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What if they are cutting you off because you are of a particular race they don’t like?

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    • Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then you’re better off not using their instance. Forcing instances to host everyone isn’t as open-minded as you think. If lemmy is to be policed and forced-I cousin is to be imolimented…. Then lemmy isn’t really free.

      Racism- any “ism” for that matter, sucks, but in a social media atmosphere, provided it’s not physically hurting someone or, targeted harassment towards anyone, should be allowed- or it’s not a free society.

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    • DessertStorms@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Aaaand, the mask comes off.
      "Reverse racism" isn't a thing, oppressed people are entitled to space away from their oppressors.
      You are not a victim, stop trying to be one because something isn't for you for a change.

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    • applejacks@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      that’s ok, because it’s the “bad” race.

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    • AnonTwo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I feel like you're being purposely vague. This is a lemmy instance right? Just link the thread.

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    • WarmSoda@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Being in the US doesn’t make you a white male.

      Seems like you’re just trying to drum up drama, tbh

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    • Zeus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      i mean, i don’t personally agree with it, but i can empathise that that demographic is overrepresented on the internet, so if their goal is to create an instance (like, say, hexbear before they federated) where they’re curating a specific experience, it’s understandable

      i’d be interested to know what instance it is though

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• fodderoh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Personally, I think what they are saying is reasonable. If I start an instance with a particular goal in mind, whatever that goal may be, then I want users that will support that goal. If a user doesn’t support that goal then they should go find an instance that’s a better fit. That’s part of the beauty of the fediverse. You aren’t constrained to a single instance. Users should find instances that fit them rather than expecting instances to change to accommodate them.

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• willya@lemmyf.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The users are only keeping the instance alive if they’re donating to its costs.

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  • alokir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not necessarily, good content and users who share and comment help servers indirectly. An empty or toxic instance will most likely not attract too many users who will donate.

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    • willya@lemmyf.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The local content doesn’t matter if it’s federating everywhere. I agree the toxic stuff should be handled. That’s only common sense.

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• AnonTwo@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Growth is important to an extent of having stability

  But past that some instances don't really desire to be the mainstream go-to site.

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• vikingtons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t see an issue with this at all?

  I remember this lionir guy from the Fedora community. They’re sound.

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• Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They want a certain type of environment for their instance. There’s nothing wrong with this at all.

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• Skyler@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  So people don't way to spend their time and money running instances for a bunch of people they don't like.

  Someone call the cops.

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• hypelightfly@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why are you screenshotting comments from an instance admin and posting them to your instance when you aren't even federated with them?

  @antik
  This shit is another example of why beehaw had to defederate from .world.

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