Is china as bad as america makes it out to be?

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨sho@ani.social⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

I do not really know much of the world outside america’s dictating media outlets that only serves to induce manufactured fearmongering and hatred for controling it’s citizens thoughts and emotions like the tyrannical oligarch it is. America is practically a monarch that pretends to be either democratic or republic. China can’t be worse than america right?

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rustyfish@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
What an interesting way to formulate your question. It’s literally flame baiting.

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- vzq@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  It’s literally flame baiting, but flame baiting is only figuratively flame baiting.
  
  I’ll go get me coat.
  
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BonerMan@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Nope. China is worse. Dictatorship, Concentration camps, 1984 was used as a blueprint for the state and society, their buildings are made from the last scrap you can find and regularly collapse, the air quality is so unhealthy in most urban areas that it damages you just like chain smoking, their environment is poisoned and full of waste, they don’t have a justice system but show courts for many things.

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DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I have family in China, I have family in the US, and I live in neither. Your average person just goes about their lives no matter where. You can be a political activist and go about your business in the US but you can’t in China (and some other countries I’ve spent a few years in). Where I’m at, I can get spinal laser surgery and pay absolutely nothing out of pocket and well, US healthcare is memed the world over. Different countries, different worries.

Governments and politics is one thing, but getting by as average people, I feel we all just do our best no matter where we are.

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ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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- rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  What a way to put on the appearance of an enlightened neutral observer while completely ignoring the complex socio-political situation by reducing it to a simple, sweeping statement. Couldn’t have done it better myself.
  
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- SassyRamen@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  China is worse, but you are right, both are bad.
  
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fart_pickle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
China is as bad as US. Period.

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- ddplf@szmer.info ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  How brazen. You seem to be the person to speak rationally and objectively on the matter. I’d love to hear your arguments.
  
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Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I think you should pick up a civics book and/or lookup what a monarch is.

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hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Define "worse". What's your concern? Level of democracy? Workplace safety? Living standards? Preserving nature and caring for the enviromnent? Mass surveillance? Economy or wealth? Independence of media? I guess these are all different questions. Generally we don't atrribute a general single bad-ness scale to a country. I suppose both countries don't excel at any of these metrics. But they're not at comparable levels, either.

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glimse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This community needs moderation

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- Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I think this community is doing a pretty great job in their search for stupid questions.
  
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  - glimse@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    c/allstupidquestions
    
    Or rather, c/mostlymisplacedquestions - I don’t fault most posters for asking stuff. It’s really up to the moderators to set some guidelines to separate this community from asklemmy. There is no theme here but if there was, it should be the same as it’s namesake: Questions you feel stupid asking because you feel like it’s common knowledge.
    
    One of the best posts I ever saw was “How often do I need to wash a hoodie?” because it made ME feel stupid for not immediately having a concrete answer
    
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kyub@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Broad question, broad answer:

Is the situation in USA bad? Yes, in several aspects (and getting much worse if the current fascism movement wins out in the end).

Is the situation in China bad? Yes, in much more aspects.

Most important goal for USA right now is to ensure they’re not regressing into an authoritarian, fascist regime. Because then, the situation for US citizens will start becoming really similar to China or Russia. After that, goal is to combat climate change. And preventing World War 3.

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Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
It’s not great to be queer in China.

Depending on how things go in the next couple weeks, we might say the same of the US though. It’s already true for certain parts of the country

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jeena@piefed.jeena.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
I'd say not quite as bad, but it's still pretty bad. Especially if you like freedom, you won't have much fun there.

On the other side if you like political games, bootlicking and bribary you will have a very good time, not as a foreigner, but if you're Han Chinese and from a family which is already established in the party it's quite nice.

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