Boeing proposes 30% wage hike to striking workers in its 'final' offer.

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• DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Lol “final offer” on skilled labor, like they got 30k scabs in their pocket. Fuck them! Hang tough union sisters and brothers! Great share, thanks!

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• JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This article doesn’t specify, but based on the previous 25% offer, I’m guessing this new and improved proposal is also structured over four years.

  New information to me is that the union initially sought a 40% increase. Kind of silly to think that when 90% of your workers decline an offer - any offer - that adding an extra few percent will get you an agreement.

  I wrote this before when the union declined the 25% bump, but it bears repeating:

  If Boeing were to pay the 40% the union is looking for upon returning to work, and committed to annual salary increases that were double whatever inflation is moving forward, they would have 32,000 employees that would never strike the rest of their careers.

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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But then the shareholders get less ROI and the bench needs their till.

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    • ArbiterXero@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How would they afford next year’s stock buyback?

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  • moody@lemmings.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What do you mean the article doesn’t specify? It’s literally the first sentence of the article.

    Boeing increased its wage proposal to tens of thousands of striking workers on Monday, offering a 30% general wage increase over four years in what it called its “best and final” offer as a work stoppage that began on September 13 drags on.

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    • JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Funny, I went through the article twice looking for the term length. Maybe I missed it because it’s written and I was looking for a digit. Thanks for pointing that out.

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• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  ‘final’ offer

  Ah, I see Boeing execs still have not realized that the skilled labor makes the company work. The ‘final’ offer will be Boeing falling further towards obscurity because the C-suite can’t see that they are the problem.

  In stark contrast, you can put any old exec into an exec spot and they’ll be just as useless as any other exec.

  For a company as large and influential as Boeing though – this is why other countries have nationalized entire industries for less.

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  • whereisk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is like naming files “final”, there’s “final final” and “final final final” after that, and so on, ad infinitum.

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• thesmokingman@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Last time Boeing execs said they “held nothing back.” Where the fuck did the extra 5% come from?

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  • pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are specific language in NLRA and other related labor bills defining terms of engagement, contracts, etc.

    Just like the rest of business, they mean something. “Best and Final” doesn’t mean the last offer ever…it just means federal mediators might get involved. Corps won’t pay realistically and more and more are using mediators as a scapegoat so they don’t have to be the one to tell their board their approach is shit and won’t fly in a contact.

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    • thesmokingman@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stephanie Pope said workers wouldn’t get anything better than the previous, rejected offer. I get what you’re trying to explain; that’s not the situation here and either way that’s the joke. Boeing corporate is being very disingenuous and clearly not negotiating in good faith. I’ve got another comment a bit ago on the article I linked calling out this exact situation.

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• penquin@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s nothing with the greedflation that has been rampant on us lately. 30% is shit. If I make $20 an hour, I would get $26? You can’t feed a family with this shit. wtf

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• gmgmgm@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Final offer? Cap. They’re already furloughing their corporate employees to only work 3 weeks a month lmao.

  Keep squeezing ‘em!

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• saltesc@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “It’s our final offer or else we’ll get an entire already skilled workforce some place else!”

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• jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  ✅ Build a bunch of airplanes that can randomly fall out of the sky.

  ✅ Leave astronauts stranded in space.

  ✅ Become laughingstock of aerospace industry.

  ☑️ Malign workforce that builds your products.

  Either management at Boeing doesn’t understand the cost of reputational damage, or they’re just actively working to destroy the company. If they don’t want to face their own demise then they’re going to have to rectify this series of collosal fuckups and they’re going to need a highly skilled, highly invested workforce to do it.

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• ravhall@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Boeing killed John Barnett

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• okamiueru@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  On a global scale, corporations could double wages, reduce hours to 80%, and it would still only match the productivity output. Only compromise would be for very few people to be slightly less obscenely wealthy.

  Keep this up, and more people will wonder if a few heads rolling is all that bad.

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• 800XL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Final? Then what, they’re gonna send out the local police depts or Constellis/Blackwater to kill them all?

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