Musk is lightyears away from a self-driving car

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• tuhriel@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m happy to dunk on musk as much as the next guy, but that title is bull.

  Lightyears measure distance not time, how can they mess that up?

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  • DrBob@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because he’s a long way away. Longer than miles away…maybe…light years?

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  • Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Musk <-------------------------------- LYs -----------------------------------> Self-Driving car

    Any questions?

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    • k_rol@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Your point doesn’t help me because it shows that we can fold space-time to create a shortcut with warp technology.

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  • Corgana@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This might be the most lemmy comment I’ve ever seen

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  • altima_neo@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Because the self driving tech exists, but it’s in the next galaxy

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    • Zwiebel@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s actually on earth, in metro trains

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    • stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Could be in the galaxy, but it would be safe to assume out of the solar system.

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  • sexy_peach@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    www.merriam-webster.com/…/light-years ahead

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    • tesseract@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s extremely nuanced. ‘Light years ahead’ is correct since you are thinking about a race where one competitor is a long distance ahead of others. On the other hand, ‘light years away’ doesn’t make sense, since we think of achievements in terms of time needed, rather than distance.

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  • HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    han did the kessel run in 12 parsecs

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    • towerful@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think the headcanon is that the shortest distance is impressive.
      Either a different faster and harder route through “the kessel”. Or that 12 parsecs is the absolute minimum distance it can be done in, perfectly apexing every corner.

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  • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Parsecs away.

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  • Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe he needs 5.879 × 10^12 miles more data

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  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are probably self-driving cars in some alien civilizations.

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  • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They aren’t streets ahead.

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  • IllNess@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That just means it has to be created in space.

    I just made the Kessel Run in twelve parsecs.

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• scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  so much money pumped into a pipe dream, when tech just isn’t there yet. It doesn’t matter how many AI models and image recognition systems you use, sometimes you just can’t plan for every case. Driving is an incredibly complex task, that to us humans makes sense and we can easily adjust to. Snow covering the lanes? Slow down, take it extremely cautiously, and find out where the road is.

  But we know what it really is all about - selling more cars. Even if the tech isn’t there the illusion that it’s just a few years away keeps people buying it. Modern AI is only fueling that techbro BS that it’s almost here.

  When really, trains. Trains are relatively (to cars) easy to automate and make run safely, can move way more people. I’m still extremely salty that Musk tried to derail California HSR with his stupid Boring company just to sell more Teslas.

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  • revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Aside from driving being an activity that, in my opinion, will require something approaching AGI, there are other issues to consider. Self driving cars will be completely unable to make difficult decisions reliably. How, for example, do they deal with a robbery where you just have someone stand in front of the car to immobilize it and then have the folks inside the car at your mercy? I have to imagine that either you’re producing pedestrian murder machines or serving up passengers on a silver platter.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      exactly, I’m trying to think of all the crazy things I’ve encountered while driving, and the many many things that I’ve seen online. Remember the meteor in Russia about 10 years ago? How would a self driving car react to all of it’s sensors being so bright it can’t see anything? I’ve had children run into the street, things fly off of cars ahead of me, people driving in 2 lanes, just yesterday I was almost smashed by a gasoline tanker who didn’t see me.

      There’s so many one-off variables that you just can’t make a model for, there’s not enough data in the world for every case that it may come across.

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  • Thevenin@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    But we know what it really is all about - selling more cars.

    It isn’t even about selling more cars at this point, it’s about selling securities. Their market cap dwarfs their total sales. Their P/E ratio is 67.67x, meaning they could sell cars for 67 years and still not make as much money as their stocks are worth today.

    The real product is the rising stock price. The factories are just a front.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Very true. Cars are a secondary venture, the stock is the true product.

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  • onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We could have global train network taking cargo and passengers from China all the way to Europe, but instead these people are focusing on the hardest feats possible. All because they read about it in a book and think it’s within arm’s reach. We could be living in unpolluted cities with free public transport and maybe even UBI. Instead we have to settle for this…

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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  • Geobloke@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We’ve already automated trains. In Australia, the mines have trains travelling hundreds of kilometres with no pilot

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    • pbjamm@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Navigating a road is a lot more complex than navigating a rail.

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• SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Despite the title not understanding what a lightyear actually means, good. We need fewer cars and especially not ones that have shown they will just run people over without care.

  Not to mention cars steal resources from other countrie, whether it be oil or metal for batteries etc. What we need is more publically funded transport that actually works well and is quick, safe and ever rich people/politicans would travel on.

  One of the worst things ever invented to a degree was cars especially since they often completely install roadways to bypass cities or worse make cities completely designed around them since there are no places to walk, play or hang out (that’s a alight aside but I do think the death of third places has cars partially to blame).

  We also need for transport companies to start recycling and actually start caring about their own waste management.

  Also, don’t make me laugh that it’s Elon that is ‘lightyears’ away from self driving cars, it’s Tesla and all the people who actually do the work, Elon is an average man who gets worshiped way too much for having too much money, spending it irresponsibly, acting irresponsibly and then taking all the credit for other’s hard work, just like every other billionaire out there.

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• KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  He’s several big bangs from self driving

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