Rip Canada
“Speech crimes”
The bill says “advocating genocide”
Canadian law would allow judges to hand down life sentences for "speech crimes" (no, this isn't a joke)
Submitted 8 months ago by Kaboom@reddthat.com to conservative@lemm.ee
Comments
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Kaboom@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Yes, and do you honestly think it will stop there? Human rights in Canada are dead, and Trudeau killed them.
PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 8 months ago
The right to…checks notes…advocate genocide is dead and you think it’s a slippery slope?
I mean, that tracks with the conservative understand of language as another frontier in the competition of life, but still…well, let me ask you a question:
Would who defend my right to advocate for the genocide of white people? (To be crystal clear, I’m not doing that, nor do I ever intend to do that, or even support anyone that would do that)
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 8 months ago
That counts as speech crime. Freedom of speech isnt just good speech or the speech you like or even the speech that isnt horrible, its all speech. Otherwise, its not free at all.
To quote Picard, “With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.”
The moment you censor that first opinion, not matter how justified you think you are, you oppress everyone.
ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Okay but in the US people can go to jail for death threats. Is that speech crime? Is that the first link in the chain? Or is that a reasonable law?
kandoh@reddthat.com 8 months ago
The moment you censor that first call to exterminate all jews, no matter how justified you think you are, you oppress everyone.
horsey@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Plenty of “speech crimes” that are illegal in the US already. For instance, threatening people. If you say to someone “I am going to assault you”, yes, that’s a crime, and you can be prosecuted and face prison time.
Grant_M@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Nice far right bullshit. lol
Kaboom@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Look at the text of the bill for yourself. www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/…/first-reading
Just ctrl-f for prison
Grant_M@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
I’ve read the bill. There are ZERO passages that indicate life sentences for ‘speech crimes’
kandoh@reddthat.com 8 months ago
No one is getting life in prison for saying anything, even calling for genocide.
This is like a few years ago when you said people would get life in prison for misgendering people.
Grow up.
Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Canada? Isn’t this the same country where protestors blocked the streets of downtown Ottowa by parking their trucks and blowing their horns day and night for a month before police did anything? The climbed on the cenotaph and danced with a Nazi flag on the tomb of the unknown soldier and pissed on it for fucks sake, and did they get arrested or do any jail time? One woman that got identified didn’t get charged, tho they could have.
I don’t think you have to worry too much about a life sentence for saying words in Canada.
Mickey7@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Great idea. In Nazi Germany they used the term “protective custody” to put you in a concentration camp. They wouldn’t say that your speech was wrong and prove that it was wrong… NO… Any speech that contradicted the policies of the Nazi regime was a crime.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And now Germany jails those who publicly throw a Nazi salute, or say Heil Hitler, or promote any other neo-Nazi BS. Are you saying that’s wrong? Because that’s a hell of a lot closer to what this is than concentration camps.
And if you do think it’s wrong… Yikes.
Mickey7@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Funny how all Nazi things are banned, WHICH THEY SHOULD, but in Germany like here now… you can also be arrested for dare speaking out against the government. Not much different than the protective custody days
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Oddly those rules came from the allies.
Is it wrong? Hard to say because I’m American and those funds wouldn’t fly here but germany isn’t America.
Alice@hilariouschaos.com 8 months ago
Wow
shalafi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
So, the question is, “who gets to decide what ‘advocating genocide’ and ‘willful promotion’ mean”?
Yeah, this is not a good place to be.
I hate Russians, yes, the people, not just the government. Reddit insta-banned me for saying so. LOL, like Russians are some sort of protected class. Wonder who’s paying the bills over there?
Anyway, surely we can all see how “advocating genocide” can be quickly twisted. I’m American, yet I agree the 1st Amendment gets stretched pretty fucking thin, but this? Foul idea.
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Just don’t be an advocate for genocide and you have nothing to worry about.
Kaboom@reddthat.com 8 months ago
And you think that its okay that they setting the precedent? Do you honestly think its going to stop there?
BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 8 months ago
I’m very much ok with setting a precedent that hate speech and child porn are not ok on the internet.
If it doesn’t stop there then we’ll see where it goes. Until then it’s just fear-mongering as an excuse to allow pedos and bigots to have free rein online, and that’s not cool either.
What ever happened to family values?!