Comment on GOG reportedly suffering from staff turnover and poor management: “Current business model is likely running out of steam”

AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• aido@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Gabe Newell has promised that if Steam goes down you won’t lose your library, but we only have his word as assurance.

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  • AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No doubt the corporate drones that take over after his death will shit all over his legacy.

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    • Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s one of my biggest fears, but I guess there’s always piracy especially for old games.

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Gabe Newell is much more likely to go down before steam does. his words mean nothing for the future.

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As great as Gaben and Valve are his word doesn’t mean anything. Luckily if they fail to keep their promises (or legally cannot) then the crack community will step in. I’m pretty sure they cracked Steam DRM ages ago. I remember a friend using it for Left 4 Dead back in the day.

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  • ugjka@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Anything that uses steam apis and services won’t work without steam and steam offers a lot of that to game devs

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    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But the APIs are public, so they can be reimplemented in open source. There just hasn’t been any reason for it since currently that would only be used for piracy (in fact some “cracked” games have a mockup of the steam API that just returns the expected things as if it had contacted the servers). But the moment steam goes away I give it a couple of weeks until there’s a GitHub implementing most of the basic stuff.

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But the APIs are public, so they can be reimplemented in open source.

        And have been since years: http://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/

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  • uskok@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you have a source for this? People like to repeat this rumour but I’ve never found out where he promises anything like that.

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    • slartibartfast@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      web.archive.org/web/…/showpost.php?p=16095809&pos…

      There’s this, the original comment lost to time, but a link to an alleged direct quote from GabeN.

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    • aido@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In addition to that forum archive, here’s a Steam support response via Reddit: reddit.com/…/i_asked_steam_support_what_happens_t…

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• glitchdx@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If steam goes down I’m sailing the high seas from then on.

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• RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A lot of steam games dont have drm

  You would lose only most of your library, not all of it

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  • OhYeah@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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    • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If you can’t play the game without the steam client then it still has drm.

      Plenty of games don’t rely on any Steamworks API at all. For the remaining http://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator/ exits

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    • stephen01king@lemmy.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But he’s not talking about those ones.

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    • RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You can play the game without the steam client

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  • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I would lose some of my library, but I think most of it would still work.

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    • RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If a game has multiplayer, it most likely has DRM

      Terraria and Cuphead are games i know dont work because of that

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      • Nibodhika@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It depends on the game and how they handle steam, if they see steam as a requirement then the game is choosing to use steam as a very rudimentary (and easily bypassed) DRM. But this is more about lazy development than DRM, essentially they’re not expecting the steam APIs to fail, which is ridiculous considering they have non-steam versions, so a simple if statement would solve this issue. Also this paints those games in a very bad light to me, because if they’re doing that with some API call on steam they might be doing it with another and now the game needs to be online always.

        There are plenty of multiplayer games that don’t require steam, iirc all of the paradox games you can just copy the folder to a different computer without steam and run the binaries.

        And while not ideal, someone else pointed in another comment that there’s an open source implementation of the steam API, so worst case scenario you just replace the library in your backup and you’re done.

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      • Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Can you not connect by IP in Terraria? I had though I had multiplayer running without even starting steam at one point…

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