Comment on Open source community figures out problems with performance in Starfield

Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Builds out thousands of hours well written and acted rpg content that people are immediately sinking hundreds of hours into

  What a garbage developer

  What a garbage commenter

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  • Neato@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bethesda is sub-par in just about every aspect of game development. Shallow combat. Basic dialogue trees. Skill/feats haven't evolved in several games. Engine so old it has to have loading screens for every type of transition.

    But you picked the story and acting to tout as good? Bethesda is well-known to have pathetically bad main-story arcs. Only a handful of side quests end up being engaging to most people. The face animations are...better now but still deeply in the uncanny valley. Their acting is usually deadpan with only the merest speck of emotion and shown as if the actor is reading their script for the first time during recording.

    Honestly the main thing that Bethesda games have going for them are a detailed, hand-crafted world that is fun to explore and experiment in. Which...Bethesda handily disposed of to have the majority of its world and worlds be procedurally generated.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wow, so informed you are, you are talking of Starfield right?

      You wouldn’t happen to just be talking out of your ass trying to make broad generalizations about games made 20 years apart to try and cast shade on a game you’ve never played would you?

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      • Neato@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This comment doesn't actually say anything. It's just casting aspirations against me because you didn't like what I said. It doesn't rebut anything or offer differing opinions on anything I proposed.

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  • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well written? Bethesda?

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    • Kbin_space_program@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Hey now. Morrowind was beautifully written.
      Then by Oblivion they started cheapened out and used AI to start generating the map and dungeons.

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      • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There’s a lot of interesting world building and history to draw upon, it’s just a shame Bethesda doesn’t do that.

        You’re never really presented with moral choices. The story never really has you think about things. There’s a tonne of lore books and tapes and what have yous that spill a rich tapestry of stories at you, but you’re never really shown any of it. I’ve had fun with Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim, and to a lesser extent Fallout 4, but at this point I’m kind of tired of it. They’re all the same game. They have the same floaty combat. The same lacklustre storytelling. The same awkward “talk at you” conversations.

        Been there, done that.

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      • Dangdoggo@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oblivion being developed with AI driven layouts is a hilarious supposition. It was 2002 dawg.

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    • Dangdoggo@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah when people tell me that Fallout or Skyrim are "well written" I know that they don't read.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So many PS5 owners in the comments today

      I’m gonna go back to enjoying Starfield

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      • dojan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m not sure what this means. Is the game not on PS5?

        You’re absolutely free to enjoy the game. Like I mentioned in the comments, Bethesda’s game is like instant ramen. It can definitely be delicious and enjoyable, but it’s not good/healthy food.

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      • BruceTwarzen@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bye, go collect your trinkets

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    • Montagge@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Better than Larian and Fromsoft by a country mile

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  • xkforce@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you decorate a dish containing raw chicken with immaculate edible gold leaf and serve it to people, you still served people raw chicken. It does not matter how extensive the lore, character design and world building is if the fucking game runs like shit and crashes.

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    • Khotetsu@lib.lgbt ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The fact that it literally can’t run on a normal HDD is baffling to me. The game is so poorly optimized that not only does it require an SSD just to run both the graphics and audio smoothly and in sync, but the recommended settings for my 2060 are everything as low as it can possibly go. I got roughly a decade out of my 970 before it truly started to show its age, but my 2 generations old card is barely good enough to run this game?

      And don’t even get me started on how I keep feeling like I’m playing Fallout 4 because so much of the music uses the same underlying score of the music from the reveal trailer. The number of times I’ve heard those rising notes from the leaving the Vault scene in Fallout 4 in my 3 hours in Starfield…

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      • AngryMob@lemmy.one ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is what happens when a new console generation comes around. Just because you are on PC does not mean you are exempt from industry norms which are largely pushed by consoles. Your 970 was significantly stronger than the xbox one and the ps4, so you could use it for that entire generation if you wanted. Your 2060 is weaker than the xbox series x and the ps5, so should be no surprise that you use lower settings than those consoles.

        Same with ssds. They werent required for so long because the consoles didnt have them. Now they do, and fast ones at that. So devs use them, and sometimes require them.

        Now obviously starfield in particular is not a shining beacon of next gen technology and optimization. But those reasons you chose to pick on are not really examples of its failings.

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  • Rolder@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not sure I’d give them well acted. The characters feel like puppets when they are talking. Maybe I’m just spoiled by BG3…

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