Comment on US Democracy

• ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The results aren’t showing that though. They are showing a large amount of Democrat voters just stayed on the couch. Trump didn’t get more votes than 2020, all that was needed was an energized democratic base.

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  • quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Sorry but staying on the couch makes you fall under the garbage and/or motion category imo

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    • NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Maybe dont genocide next time. Genociders, their financiers, and those who enable them are garbage.

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      • quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Okay so best case scenario now you have an incompetent, ineffectual rapist and felon now who doesn’t care about genocide in this country let alone another, and will let it drag on. Worst case you have an incompetent rapist and felon who will write a blank check to Netanyahu to finish the genocide quickly with whatever means necessary. His supporters and the people who sat back will share culpability in whichever happens. So we definitely agree on your last sentence

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      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Both sides.

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  • Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Couch-bound voting was easily possible and easy. They CHOSE to sit it out.

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  • Zink@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Trump still got 72 million votes and counting this time. That’s with another four years of Trump scandals, revelations, criminal charges, insurrections, mental declines, and on-video insane statements.

    The people who stayed home, or the politicians who failed to motivate them, sure they carry some blame. They could have helped. But they are not the base. The ones who followed Trump from being the outsider who is fun because he’s an asshole/racist like them, to the corrupt traitorous dictator-to-be who they’d like to watch hurt people. Blame them much more.

    The steady level of Trump support unfortunately supports the fear that our culture is just garbage. We’re surrounded by it. There are plenty of proud assholes, sure. But so many people will legitimately be pleasant to everybody they meet and seem to function in society, but either believe horrible things or have a thick shell of indoctrination and ignorance around their brain.

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    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The people that supported trump were always going to support him and be energized to vote. That’s a big part of why focusing on his lies was such a waste of time, it wasn’t going to change any minds. Winning elections is about motivating your base, undecided voters are a wash and opposing voters aren’t likely to massively shift.

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  • Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Do you think they stayed on the couch cause kamala didn’t give them the metaphorical coffee they needed or did they stay on the couch because they knew even if they voted for her and she won she wouldn’t fix the issues this country faces? The corporate donors will not let any two party pawns address their control or runaway wealth. Voting isn’t going to solve our issues now with trump. America is stuck waiting for things to get bad enough that people rise up or doomed to collapse.

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    • ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Does it really matter between those two? End of the day, Trump motivated his base and Harris didn’t.

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