This. Was crazy to see everyone turn on the DNC and Harris the moment it was over like we are just unable to come to terms with the fact that we’re surrounded by garbage and morons and there’s no way around it
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Reygle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Wisconsin, US here. My county went 70% for Trump this time. That’s versus ~48$ in 2016. The problem isn’t democracy. The problem is the people. Pissed as hell for all the wrong reasons at all the wrong people. Unable to see reality, expecting that the person in charge could make it a utopia with the flick of a switch. The average American is delusional and irreparably stupid.
We constantly joke that it’s Idiocracy, but the truth is…
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ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The results aren’t showing that though. They are showing a large amount of Democrat voters just stayed on the couch. Trump didn’t get more votes than 2020, all that was needed was an energized democratic base.
quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz 1 month ago
Sorry but staying on the couch makes you fall under the garbage and/or motion category imo
NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Maybe dont genocide next time. Genociders, their financiers, and those who enable them are garbage.
Reygle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Couch-bound voting was easily possible and easy. They CHOSE to sit it out.
Zink@programming.dev 1 month ago
Trump still got 72 million votes and counting this time. That’s with another four years of Trump scandals, revelations, criminal charges, insurrections, mental declines, and on-video insane statements.
The people who stayed home, or the politicians who failed to motivate them, sure they carry some blame. They could have helped. But they are not the base. The ones who followed Trump from being the outsider who is fun because he’s an asshole/racist like them, to the corrupt traitorous dictator-to-be who they’d like to watch hurt people. Blame them much more.
The steady level of Trump support unfortunately supports the fear that our culture is just garbage. We’re surrounded by it. There are plenty of proud assholes, sure. But so many people will legitimately be pleasant to everybody they meet and seem to function in society, but either believe horrible things or have a thick shell of indoctrination and ignorance around their brain.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
The people that supported trump were always going to support him and be energized to vote. That’s a big part of why focusing on his lies was such a waste of time, it wasn’t going to change any minds. Winning elections is about motivating your base, undecided voters are a wash and opposing voters aren’t likely to massively shift.
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Do you think they stayed on the couch cause kamala didn’t give them the metaphorical coffee they needed or did they stay on the couch because they knew even if they voted for her and she won she wouldn’t fix the issues this country faces? The corporate donors will not let any two party pawns address their control or runaway wealth. Voting isn’t going to solve our issues now with trump. America is stuck waiting for things to get bad enough that people rise up or doomed to collapse.
ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Does it really matter between those two? End of the day, Trump motivated his base and Harris didn’t.
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Yeah uh, I really really hate to say it, but… democracy worked this time. The voice of the people is “Trump please”. Democracy just means you get what most people want, not what the best option is.
Mesophar@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I’m pretty sure the majority of people mourning the loss of democracy aren’t saying it because they feel the democratic process was broken this election, rather they say it because Dump vowed to dismantle democracy and serve as a dictator.
assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Eh… I’m sure that’s the case for some people, but a lot of left and right wing people seem to think democracy=my ideas winning. Those people seem to think Trump winning is not reflective of the (very shitty) will of the people.
bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
I didn’t hear that when Bush was elected, either one.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 month ago
It’s funny that you can now actually do a Pro/Con list about the Idiocracy universe over our own:
Pros:
- Lots of diversity
- Black president
- President listens to advisors
- Sex work legal
- Not crippled by religiosity
- Puts smart people in positions of power and trust
Cons:
- Everyone’s stupid
- No real due process
- Public executions
- Misogyny, homophobia, and ableism are rampant
Same:
- Police are knuckle-dragging morons who will murder you
- President has too much power
- Costco
quickdrinkthis@mander.xyz 1 month ago
At least we’ll always have Costco that really lifted my spirits 👍
Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Welcome to Costco, I love you.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Thank you for saying it. The voter is the fucking problem. Anyone with half a brain realizes this. Gaza, egg prices, and the candidate not having a dick was enough to the traitor rapist felon to get a trifecta. That’s not a campaign problem. Maybe Harris didn’t run a perfect campaign, but that’s clearly not the issue here
Altofaltception@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m not American. Maybe my opinion also comes from a place of not understanding how government works in the US. But in 2020, Biden won the Presidency and the Democrats had control of the House and the Senate. Yet, they had a harder time of reversing Trump’s policies than he had pushing them through. Let alone not even trying to enact progressive policies.
As an outside observer, maybe that’s why people have lost faith in the Democratic party.
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Because you have to consider all the court appointments he made, including the supreme court that he stacked. If the Biden admin did any more, itd just get struck down. The court can basically nullify any law or executive order they want without repercussion. Im frankly shocked he got away with as much as he did
TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Orange asshole is definitely going to get more of those court appointments over the next 4 years. And they will all pretty much be there for the rest of our lives. Any sort of sense of democracy that the US had was probably dealt a death blow today.
afansfw@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
Why can’t Biden do his own supreme court appointments?