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Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fake and transpilled

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• itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fake and gay

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• dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Drag doesn’t believe in lesbians. Drag thinks they’re just gay women. There’s no reason gay women are special in a way that gay men and gay enbies aren’t. The only reason we have the word lesbian, is because sexist old men didn’t think women could really be gay. We should just get rid of the word and say gay woman instead.

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  • tanisnikana@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Bad take.

    You’re erasing the existence of Sappho, who was so gay for girls that the island she came from—the place heretofore unknown for anything—is now known for just how goddamn queer she was, and everyone who experiences sapphic love (hey, another word that got coined off of one poet’s fantastically omnipresent woman lust).

    Lesbians. Sapphic lesbians. From Lesbos. That Sappho started. Why?

    Girls pretty.

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And yet nobody calls gay men thessalians, despite Achilles being from Thessaly. It’s because we don’t need to, we already have the word gay. The only reason we don’t just use the word gay for women, is that homophobes thought women couldn’t be gay. They need a euphemism. We don’t need a euphemism.

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      • tanisnikana@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Let’s make things clear: you don’t need a euphemism.

        I want more euphemisms. I want this language to have some goddamn options and I want the number of words in this language to never fucking decrease for any reason.

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  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We should just get rid of the word and say gay woman instead

    Or how ‘bout this radical idea - we should let lesbians decide what word to call themselves? It’s awfully odd to decide to redefine a group of people without getting that group’s input on the matter.

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      womensrepublic.net/the-demonization-of-the-word-l…

      It has come to my attention that many homosexual women— myself included— struggle to identify with the label “lesbian” and prefer the all-encompassing terms “queer” or “gay.” As I reflect on my own coming-out experience, I recall an instant desire to distance myself from the word entirely

      Numerous factors, such as false media representation, negative stereotypes, and fetishization, have resulted in the rejection of the term lesbian by today’s queer women. So, I pose the question: with such a tainted image of the lesbian persona, is the word worth saving and reclaiming? As the modern queer women reject their pre-determined submissive gender roles, is it time for a new term to take the stage?

      medium.com/…/why-i-dont-identify-as-a-lesbian-any…

      These days, the word lesbian is a weapon, for TERFs and biphobes and exclusionists of all stripes. And what was I defending it for, in the first place? So I could go on using a different word for feminine gayness because femininity is so different from other gender presentations?

      I don’t use the word anymore because I’m a good deal convinced that the bigots may as well have it. It never brought the lot of us any actual good in My lifetime. Maybe one day, “lesbian” will mean a transphobic gay woman. And the rest of us “sapphics”, if you must put a specific label on it, will just be accepted as normal-ass gay people, the same as gay people of any gender identity.

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      • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thank you for including these perspectives. This is the kind of context that puts the big picture together.

        I apologize for coming off rude. It’s not easy to tell online which perspective a person is arguing from, or if they are arguing in good faith. I appreciate that you provided additional information and viewpoints from other people. It gives me something new to think about.

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  • clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t know that I agree, or really have the basis to form an opinion, but upvote for sharing your opinion.

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