I think the only reason Super Mario bros earned that much is because … kids. People in general have grown tired of reboots, remakes, cinematic universes, you know, just the blatant milking of IP.
Then again, Barbie fits in that category. So I dunno.
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Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
It’s not crazy the margin is so small, but it’s reflective of disappointing brand loyalty versus progressive curiosity.
“Somehow, a movie about personal development and cultural introspection has earned more money in the United States than a movie about jumping on turtles. We aren’t sure what’s happening”.
demonquark@lemmy.world 2 years ago
ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 years ago
People in general have grown tired of reboots, remakes, cinematic universes, you know, just the blatant milking of IP
I think maybe we want that to be true more than it is
finthechat@kbin.social 2 years ago
Mario also benefited from being the only theatrical release from that franchise in 30 years. It was a hugely popular franchise that had been untapped, as far as movies go.
moody@lemmings.world 2 years ago
People in general have grown tired of reboots, remakes, cinematic universes, you know, just the blatant milking of IP.
Really? Is that why they’re so successful?
Don’t get me wrong, I am tired of reboots and remakes and rehashes, but people aren’t.
AProfessional@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Both of them are just ad tie-ins for other products. Barbie is hardly “cultural introspection”…
girl@lemm.ee 2 years ago
tell me you didn’t watch the movie without telling me you didn’t watch the movie
AProfessional@lemmy.world 2 years ago
[deleted]girl@lemm.ee 2 years ago
I’ve watched the video. It’s a great critique of the corporate feminism in the movie. But it fails to back up your claim that Barbie has no cultural introspection.
The movie certainly does a garbage job of addressing the body image issues perpetuated by the brand. And it gives the company way too much cutesy-funness in an attempt to tame down the corporate hate it would receive. But not every feminist movie can cover every feminist topic. If every movie had to be a perfect representation of every feminist issue, we would have 0 feminist movies.
IMO, the biggest theme of the movie is how the patriarchy negatively impacts both men and women. That is feminist, and is strongly culturally introspective. We have very few movies that discuss toxic masculinity and its impact on our culture, Barbie is a good start.
girl@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Then you weren’t paying attention. The movie has plenty of cultural introspection, particularly how the patriarchy impacts both men and women. Yes it was definitely a giant toy ad, but it wasn’t just that.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Evidence?
AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 years ago
...it's a Barbie movie
Like...one of the dominating toy brands of the 90s...the fact it has "personal development and cultural introspection" is something most people aren't going to know except word or mouth or seeing it themselves.
Both movies were tie-ins. But yes, the Barbie movie had more substance to it on closer inspection.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
“something most people aren’t going to know except word or mouth or seeimg it themselves” - or by watching thirty seconds of the trailer.
Correct, both movies are tie-ins(which nobody has argued against), but not “just” tie-ins, which is the incorrect assertion addressed.
And then you agree that the Barbie movie does have more substance.
Long way to haul your agreement on every discussed point.
AProfessional@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Evidence for what, that Barbie is a brand of products? shop.mattel.com/collections/barbie
Or that it is very shallow? I like this take: youtu.be/RToUZJ0l7Pk?si=L_5KpIFNGR_BxS8W
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
No, not evidence for questions that nobody asked you, evidence for your assertion about the movies Barbie(2023)and Super Mario Bros.(2023):
“Both of them are just ad tie-ins for other products. Barbie is hardly “cultural introspection”.
Do you have evidence that both of these movies are only ad tie-ins for their toy products and that Barbie does not imply or introduce cultural introspection?
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Terevos@lemm.ee 2 years ago
More like gaming brand vs. doll brand.
The doll brand won, which I’m not at all surprised by.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 years ago
But the gaming brand movie was nowhere as deep as the doll brand movie. No one talked about the themes and writing of Super Mario Bros. the way they are talking about Barbie.
Terevos@lemm.ee 2 years ago
Sure. But you’re not going to know that unless you’ve watched the movie or read reviews.
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 years ago
Given how long both movies have been in theaters, it is likely that reviews are driving don’t demand.
lori@lemmy.sdf.org 2 years ago
Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Barbie as a character is less popular with American kids than Mario in 2023. Hasn’t Barbie been struggling?
Terevos@lemm.ee 2 years ago
It’s not about the kids. Kids don’t generate the most money in the box office. It’s about adults. And adults of movie going ages all know Barbie. They’re even dressing up for the movie.
Neato@kbin.social 2 years ago
I'd love it if the Super Mario Bros Movie was actually about jumping on turtles. But it's really just about brand recognition and easter eggs. It felt like everything was just there to be there and be seen. Not because it served the story.
Except Bowser and his song. That's oscar worthy.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
I’m sorry I’m leaving my first ever third reply to I think any comment on the internet, but now I’m going to watch this movie because I just watched “peaches”
WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 years ago
Bullshit.
The Super Mario Bros Super Show theme needed to be heard by the world.
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Jack Black sings? Welp, I’ll watch that part of the movie a little sooner than I was planning to.
Neato@kbin.social 2 years ago
He certainly does.
And here's a music video that isn't from the movie and honestly 1000x better.
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Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Oh yes my friend, I have now already watched every single pages version available on YouTube and I’m trolling the Vimeo and alt sector for other videos hahaha.
Absolutely amazing!
Terevos@lemm.ee 2 years ago
It was. And yet I still liked it a lot
Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 years ago
Instead of a decade from now, I’m currently looking for that song hahha