also note that Atlantis is part of the origin myth for nazis. so this usually is just code for “the white master race taught the brown and black savages how to do civilization”, either conscious or not.
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Stitch0815@feddit.org 5 days agoNo it’s deeply rooted in racism.
TLDR is: Everything great achieved in africa/ america/asia must have been aliens/ancient civilization (Like Atlantis). Everything in Europe was of course achieved due to the great intellect of europeans.
I recomend the podcast “It’s probably (not) Aliens” They really deep dive into different aspects of ancient aliens/astronaut theories
pyre@lemmy.world 5 days ago
WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Wait: you’re telling me me the nazi’s from 100 years ago, adopted the story of Alantis that is centuries older than them, to reinforce belief in their ideology?
pyre@lemmy.world 4 days ago
fantasy is an integral part of Nazi ideology. it’s not like it has any scientific balls basis. it uses mythical origins to reinforce the fantasy of the superior aryan race. notice how even Nazis today are ogbsessed with Vikings, ancient Greece and Rome.
whiteness isn’t a real thing; it’s based on exclusion, ie defined by what it’s not. so they have these disparate cultures romanticized and idealized in order to fake a shared history and culture.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Ok but that’s the thing I’m trying to get at. 15k years ago there was no such thing as Europeans. There weren’t Africans or Asians or Indians. Thats so far back that there are zero ties to modern races. It’s meaningless to try and connect them. It cant belittle one group of people while praising the intellect of another because human migration has made any resemblance to modern humanity from that far back a moot point. Any races from that long ago no longer exist.
Ifera@lemmy.world 5 days ago
It is one of the many arguments that helped Nazism take root. "We were once the great Aryans, but with so many immigrant subhumans and control by the lesser races, we will drown, we need to be rid of them to Make America Great Again, I mean, Rebuild Mother Russia, I mean, bring forth the Third Reich.
pyre@lemmy.world 4 days ago
are you arguing with Nazis about how logical their racism is
Stitch0815@feddit.org 4 days ago
What they say here
There is no point in arguing. You will just be stuck in an endless loop of bad faith arguments
SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
Exactly, it’s just an “evolution” of the whole White Saviour bit they love so much.
On the flip side, there was an article on the BBC website around a year ago. Basically the article was explaining how archeologists had no idea how the ancient folk made Stonehenge so accurately plumb and level, and how they’ve been experimenting for aaaages trying to figure it out…
Now, I’m a stonemason. And I can tell you exactly what they probably did, but the Big Brain people don’t like to ask people who work trades. (Or maybe they are just asking the wrong ones)
If you have figured out rope or string, and you have access to wood and a few stones, then it’s incredibly easy to level off an area, to make an accurate circle, and to make the tops of all the standing stones level and the uprights plumb.
A basic plumb-bob is incredibly easy to make, in this instance we would use as straight a piece of wood as we can find, a length of rope tied to the middle of it, with a stone tied to the other end. For the uprights, get straight logs as long as each stone going into the ground. Now we have our standing stone analogues, and a plumb-bob. Dig the holes for the uprights, plop the logs down in the hole, if the plumb-bob isn’t pointing straight down between the two logs, one side has to go down.
There, mystery solved. Thanks for coming to my TEDtalk.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Case in point, this hairdresser rediscovered Roman technique
SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
Nice! Thanks for the tidbit of knowledge!
Ifera@lemmy.world 5 days ago
That one, was the BBC being contrarian and stupid, or trying to drum up Stonehenge as an attractive mystery, it has been common knowledge among archeology enthusiasts that Stonehenge is an impressive monument, but that it is nothing that we can’t replicate with manpower, a bit of a budget and basic tech available since we have rope.
SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
Well, I’m glad that archeologists aren’t as dim as they were made out to be!