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There are vegan blood meal alternatives out there to resolve this exact conundrum.

But the reality is, unless your plants are being grown hydroponically in a sealed warehouse or similar, chances are real good that they are feeding on decaying animals (either directly or indirectly) whether you like it or not. They’re mostly insects and annelids and such, but still animals.

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superkret@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
The issue for vegans is whether animal slaughter was involved and whether they supported it with their purchase.

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- Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Its easiest to treat paying for something the same as doing it firsthand.
  
  It gets really strange to find the line that separates how far away from an immoral act you need to be to be considered moral still. In the same room? In the same building? What if you don’t explicitly ask someone to do the immoral thing, and only ask for the remains of it?
  
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Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Humans are just as much part of nature as everything else

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- FiskFisk33@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  a common definition of nature is the stuff that is untouched by humans.
  
  as wiktionary puts it:
  
  flora and fauna as distinct from human conventions, art, and technology
  
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  - Kwiila@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Some indigenous people cooperate with their natural environment. Humans are fundamentally a keystone species that’s collectively gotten really bad at it, to get good at other things. We could have human conventions, art, and technology that works entirely with nature and our environment rather than against it. Between these facts, I’m not a fan of that definition.
    
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    Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Would that make invasive species unnatural? When does a disrupted ecosystem become natural again?
    
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- ignotum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  If i see you get attacked by wild animals i guess i won’t try to help you, wouldn’t want to go against nature or anything
  
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  - grubberfly@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    It’s funny how this is downvoted. Not that I agree, but wouldn’t that be the logical conclusion?
    
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    ignotum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Rest assured, i don’t agree with it either, but as you say this seems to follow from the statement
    
    We shouldn’t treat/cure cancer, cancer happens in nature and we’re a part of nature
    We shouldn’t try to prevent rape, rape happens in nature and we’re part of nature
    We shouldn’t try to limit animal suffering, animal suffering happens in nature and we’re part of nature
    
    It’s the good old argument from naturalism
    
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teamevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Life feeds on life feeds on life, plants don’t care how you died just how your nutrients are able to be absorbed.

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anivia@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
Doesn’t have to be hydroponics, using coco coir instead of soil will also fix that issue

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